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Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by romeodelight »

38f0ia wrote: post #251
jacquesm wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The top-voted comment on this thread really should be words of praise for what Zuckerberg and his team have accomplished. The top voted comment actually is an excerpt from a book by a man that I respect a whole lot more than I respect Mark Zuckerberg. For one he seemed a genuinely nice and modest human being. He also influenced the lives of countless people by being creative rather than by selling off their private…

Facebook is the new AOL. Exactly. And the worst part of it is there is a kid acting as CEO calling himself a "hacker". Hackers do not turn websites into corporations. Imagine if all ISP's were turned into "AOL's". Facebook did not connect billions of people. They were already connected. All they needed to do was share their contact details. And the facility for that already existed in thousands of other websites. Peo…

tell us how you really feel.

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by phalek »

JonnieCache wrote: post #144

$> ping us.etrade.com PING us.etrade.com (12.153.224.21): 56 data bytes Request timeout for icmp_seq 0 36 bytes from etrade-fina.edge4.atlanta2.level3.net (4.30.52.206): Communication prohibited by filter Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 115d 0 0000 31 01 9939 10.0.232.100 12.153.224.21 Request timeout for icmp_seq 1 Request timeout for icmp_seq 2 Request timeout for icmp_seq 3 Request timeout…

Communication prohibited by filter

No, that's restriction.

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by f45s8g2 »

larrys wrote: post #208
paul wrote: post #188

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Agreed. The growing levels of envy and cynicism on hn is unhealthy. Trashing other people's efforts doesn't make your own more successful.

"cynicism" Because it's a boatload of money. Over twice the value of HP and almost half the value of Walmart. Slightly higher market cap than Amazon. It's absurd. I think there is plenty of reason for cynicism. And I didn't know that HN readers were supposed to all be cut from the same bolt of cloth.

Well said.

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by f45s8g2 »

jrockway wrote: post #253
jacquesm wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The top-voted comment on this thread really should be words of praise for what Zuckerberg and his team have accomplished. The top voted comment actually is an excerpt from a book by a man that I respect a whole lot more than I respect Mark Zuckerberg. For one he seemed a genuinely nice and modest human being. He also influenced the lives of countless people by being creative rather than by selling off their private…

Does Facebook sell user data to the highest bidder? I thought they used the information to target ads, not to actually sell.

Eventually, when Facebook reaches their sunset, the information will be sold off. It will be used in direct marketing by other companies. This is an opinion not fact.

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by skeletonjelly »

Munksgaard wrote: post #164
randomdrake wrote: post #40

The opening ceremony was actually kind of cool: http://www.livestream.com/nasdaq/video?clipId=pla_80cca9bb-4... Seeing the sheer joy on Mark Zuckerberg's face was nice. I thought he was going to shed a tear, actually. It's always inspiring to see a geek get his day.

Are they just clapping for 3 minutes straight or am I missing something here?

I'm not sure what I was expecting to see. Maybe a board with the price on it? That was a cool glimpse but pretty surreal

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by f45s8g2 »

paul wrote: post #198
Retric wrote: post #192

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While I respect what it took to get Facebook to this point and realize it has helped millions of people. I still find the entire concept rather creepy, and much of there upper management sleazy. I also expect a lot of people to lose a 'lot' of money either directly or due to huge opportunity costs when buying Facebook stock. PS: I have never signed up, and I know plenty of people that stopped using Facebook. I also s…

How much of the upper management do you personally know? Have you actually met them, or are you just repeating the opinion of the hn mob?

It does change things when you know the people personally in terms of what you might say about the company they work for.

But what the "HN mob" is evaluating is what Facebook is actually doing, not each and every employee of the company as a person.

Ultimately, it's more important what Facebook's users think of the company, and what hackers who understand the technology that Facebook uses think of what they are doing, not what Facebook's business partners think of Facebook's employees and management.

(This is my opinion not fact.)

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by Mistone »

38f0ia wrote: post #251
jacquesm wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The top-voted comment on this thread really should be words of praise for what Zuckerberg and his team have accomplished. The top voted comment actually is an excerpt from a book by a man that I respect a whole lot more than I respect Mark Zuckerberg. For one he seemed a genuinely nice and modest human being. He also influenced the lives of countless people by being creative rather than by selling off their private…

Facebook is the new AOL. Exactly. And the worst part of it is there is a kid acting as CEO calling himself a "hacker". Hackers do not turn websites into corporations. Imagine if all ISP's were turned into "AOL's". Facebook did not connect billions of people. They were already connected. All they needed to do was share their contact details. And the facility for that already existed in thousands of other websites. Peo…

I think we can all agree that Zuckerburg is indeed a Hacker (in the HN context). He's been hacking since he was a kid, and he built facebook (duh). When he was at StartUp School a few years back - he was clearly in his element.

If we are bashing fb for using personal info to sell ads - the same principal basically applies to any major social site in the world.

Hate him or love him - fb has been a huge boon for the everyday people, tech startups, and hackers; and along the way has made Zuck and many others massively wealthy. Don't hate.

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by JonnieCache »

phalek wrote: post #262
JonnieCache wrote: post #144

$> ping us.etrade.com PING us.etrade.com (12.153.224.21): 56 data bytes Request timeout for icmp_seq 0 36 bytes from etrade-fina.edge4.atlanta2.level3.net (4.30.52.206): Communication prohibited by filter Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 115d 0 0000 31 01 9939 10.0.232.100 12.153.224.21 Request timeout for icmp_seq 1 Request timeout for icmp_seq 2 Request timeout for icmp_seq 3 Request timeout…

Communication prohibited by filter No, that's restriction.

As I understand it, that's their ISP cutting off the tidal wave of traffic at the network edge to prevent it disrupting the core, like they do in the event of a DDOS.

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by f45s8g2 »

backspace wrote: post #194
ramanujan wrote: post #181

This is Hacker News. The top-voted comment on this thread really should be words of praise for what Zuckerberg and his team have accomplished. Every hacker, every entrepreneur, every creator should derive inspiration and uplift from Facebook's story. It's a rare bright day in the middle of the worst economic environment since the 1930s. It doesn't matter whether the company will grow into a $100B valuation. It does m…

This is Hacker News. Where hard working entrepreneurs look for advice, hope, reality checks, and support. Yes, Facebook has wildly exceeded what most people expected. But to build a social honey pot isn't to inspire other hackers/entrepreneurs. I don't wish them ill but I also don't take any inspiration from Zuckerberg/Facebook. In fact, I learnt many things not to do (i.e. screwing your founders, doing shady deals,…

Social honeypot. Perfect.

HN itself is a sort of social honeypot. But just look at what FB does with the information they collect.

They simply have no sense of restraint. And it all starts with Zuckerberg and his attitude.

Re: NASDAQ:FB

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Post by Mistone »

corford wrote: post #202
paul wrote: post #200

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Growing to a billion users is harder than you think. There were many other social networks, including ones started at other top schools, but only one survived, and it was because they understood what makes a site like fb work.

Yes, but is it $100 billion's worth of hard work? I guess that's what the market gets to decide. Edit: also half the problem is caused by assuming 1 billion users translates to anything meaningful. Apart from being an impressive number in its own right, what exactly does it mean? Facebook is free to use and helps satisfy basic human social desires in a digital way. Great but would they have 1 billion users if it wasn…

i would argue that indeed 1 billion users translates to something very meaningful. They built something people wanted, someone get Zuck a shirt.
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