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Re: GitHub is down

#71
Maybe what is happening in this thread should give everyone cause for concern and a clear heads-up that more serious problems are afoot.

Very emotional reactions here, whether fuming at the unreliability of the service, or zealously defending and identifying with it, indicate people have far too much invested in this single point of service.

People are saying - "That's me done for the day, have a good weekend!" What is the economic cost of this? On a global scale? The pattern is the same as we've seen recently with Office365 and other cloud services.

People talk about setting up elaborate monitoring services, yet with a similar effort one could set up one's own development repositories and tools.

It's not like this crowd is typically "helpless", or unaware of what is being done, yet people remain beholden; Github has diversified into a social network and AI tool, far beyond its initial remit as a code repository. People seem genuinely terrified at the prospect of it going. And rightfully so.

In the wake of the xz backdoor attempt Microsoft will soon move to offer "developer protection" and a system of validation, testament and supply-chain protections. At that point Microsoft will have all of you absolutely in the palm of its hand and at its mercy.

Now would be a good time to seriously invest in long term thinking and strategic protection of your development future, indeed of your fundamental ability and rights to develop software free from disruption, pressure and encumbrance.

Re: GitHub is down

#74
post #40

My on-prem gitlab has now survived 6 cloud-based github outages.

how long do you spend upgrading it?

Not OP, but for mine I spend about 10 minutes every 2 weeks.

Once: an upgrade went wrong and I had to roll-back, that made me spend 30 minutes instead of 10.

Gitlab instance stats:

Projects 256

Users 216

Groups 17

Disk usage: 877 GiB / 3.38 TiB

Re: GitHub is down

#75
post #16

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Status pages can never be trusted.

I recently set up a status page for the services I run on my pi. The idea was to get some insights and apply experience at work. My experience now tells me what we really need first is a solid alerting system, the status page can't be trusted. It's a PR tool (a useful one), not a sysadmin tool.

If the status page officially authorized by the company’s management team cannot be trusted, then why trust the company in the first place?

Re: GitHub is down

#76
post #26

Since last few months, GitHub has become very unreliable. For example, last month, they reported six official incidents in just one week. I've also noticed many shorter, non-official incidents (i.e. the ones where there is no active incident on their status page, but many API calls return a 500 error). I learned about this the hard way (we offer affordable GitHub Runners at Ubicloud, which gives us the opportunity to…

Curious if this is related to them adopting azure

What does 'adopting azure' mean?

Re: GitHub is down

#77

This happens fairly regularly. Do HNers think that Microsoft azure and/or Ruby has a role in it?

Why would Ruby play a role in it? Azure definitely does though. (ex azure employee here )

> Why would Ruby play a role in it? Azure definitely does though. (ex azure employee here )

Oh yeah. If someone says C++ has poor memory safety than Rust then no one is triggered. But say something about Ruby (the language on a secular decline - https://www.dice.com/binaries/content/gallery/dice/insights/...) and the pitchforks are out.

Re: GitHub is down

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently set up a status page for the services I run on my pi. The idea was to get some insights and apply experience at work. My experience now tells me what we really need first is a solid alerting system, the status page can't be trusted. It's a PR tool (a useful one), not a sysadmin tool.

If the status page officially authorized by the company’s management team cannot be trusted, then why trust the company in the first place?

Is the company in the business of selling status pages ?

Re: GitHub is down

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post #72

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This is a first-party site.

This is the other-party site. Could be first in a sense but inevitably the other.

Huh? This site is part of Github. It is on a different domain (presumably) so that if there is a DNS outage it will not be affected.

Re: GitHub is down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the status page officially authorized by the company’s management team cannot be trusted, then why trust the company in the first place?

Is the company in the business of selling status pages ?

If they market it as a feature,yes?

Were you expecting me to say something else?

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