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Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected

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Post by herpdyderp »

traceroute66 wrote: post #226
herpdyderp wrote: post #224

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I downloaded it and it won't let me do anything. When I try to login it says I need a managed Apple ID.

I've been using it for many years now, multiple installations on new macs and I've never seen such a thing. I can only think it must be something specific to your setup. Looking at the version I presently have installed, there is an Account menu and it says "sign in...", so I'm clearly not signed in. Managed Apple ID seems to be some sort of MDM-style thing[1] , I've certainly never done that and no idea how it works…

Ah, I understand my confusion now. I was trying to use the iOS version of the app. I'm using the macOS version now with my iPhone connected and it's working. Thanks for the advice! :D

Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected

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Post by Gud »

everdrive wrote: post #56
walterbell wrote: post #9

Apple should provide an option to opt-out of Siri "learn from app" for ALL applications. At present, this must be done individually for every app, https://www.imore.com/how-stop-siri-learning-how-you-use-app... . When you later install new apps after setting up the device, you have to remember to go into Settings and opt-out again, for every app, forever. How many people know that iOS devices will default to Siri rea…

It would be much better if I could just uninstall Siri. I don't want a voice assistant, and never have.

Absolutely. One extremely annoying anti-feature is that to use CarPlay you must have Siri enabled.

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Post by kemayo »

diggan wrote: post #192
lancesells wrote: post #164

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Same here. I do think it makes some sense in that case.

I'm also in the situation where I use Siri for nothing, but I want to use CarPlay. I don't use the voice control for anything, in the car or otherwise. How does it make sense to force me to have Siri enabled?

There's a bunch of parts of CarPlay which assume you can use Siri. Interacting with notifications, sending / responding-to messages, searching for things in maps, etc. Apple could disable everything that would kick itself out to a Siri-interaction for input, but that'd probably feel confusingly-broken.

Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected

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Post by lrvick »

23B1 wrote: post #227
lrvick wrote: post #223

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I do not think it is, but most who argue they -need- smartphones to survive seem to think so.

I think the inside of your bubble must be polished to a mirror finish.

I grew up on the road often getting food from food stamps and food pantries, been working since 10, had to fend for myself since 17, spent years surfing couches and sleeping in cars, and learned engineering skills while working retail, pc repair, coding gigs, street entertainment, day labor, trucking, and telemarketing.

I am accustomed to life without a smartphone because I could not afford one until my mid 20s and only had a laptop because of a $200 Black Friday sale I waited in line 3 days for.

Keep making assumptions about others though.

Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected

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Post by taneq »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #229
everdrive wrote: post #56

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It would be much better if I could just uninstall Siri. I don't want a voice assistant, and never have.

"I don't want a voice assistant, and never have." "It's not the customer's job to know what they want" -- Steve Jobs

I'd be happy to have a voice assistant that was actually smart. Every few months I ask Siri if it's powered by a language model yet. So far it hasn't even been able to understand the question.

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Post by Terretta »

alickz wrote: post #214
kmlx wrote: post #172

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> and their services revenue is in jeopardy with the new EU changes to the App Store the services revenue is at an all time high and keeps climbing: https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/14629/apple-services-reve... re. app store, the EU market represents just 7% of their worldwide app store revenues, most probably due to the fact the EU market is 65% android: https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/01/apple-says-eu-represents-7…

I was considering less how their revenue is now and more how it will be when the EU regulations hit and they lose the guaranteed 30/15% cut on all iOS apps I know the US govt is hitting them with a similar anti-trust lawsuit, so it might happen over there too If Apple lose their walled garden, and the 30/15% cut with it, both in EU and US, I think that could be a massive problem for them Whether or not that will actu…

> Apple lose their walled garden, and the 30/15% cut with it

This could be fantasy talking. How does the walled garden around Steam affect their 30% cut? Oh, there is no wall, and it's... 30%.

So wait, if non-walled-garden stores cost 30% in an open market -- are we sure this is going to work out getting to use the world's most valuable app store shelf space for free?

It doesn't work that way at Walmart...

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Post by throw0101c »

jSully24 wrote: post #159
throw0101c wrote: post #82

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> It would be much better if I could just uninstall Siri. I don't want a voice assistant, and never have. I just don't turn it on and so never use it.

Car Play will not enable with Siri turned off (at least in my 2019 Subaru).

> Car Play will not enable with Siri turned off (at least in my 2019 Subaru).

I drive a 2003 Golf: there is no Car Play.

Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected

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Post by n4r9 »

bell-cot wrote: post #154
n4r9 wrote: post #3

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That's overly harsh, and a disingenuous analogy to draw.

(Guessing that you are not referring to my 'Either their "surprise" was purely theatrical (or journalistic gloss)' phrase.) Do you view "university researcher" as pretty-prestigious & cool social status tier - which is provided "because they deserve it", for people who spend years grinding their way up an academic XP ladder? Or do you see "university researcher" as expense which the public pays, because it expects co…

I hope I wouldn't come into this with either of those preconceived notions, as it sounds like a false dichotomy. University researchers are a mixed bag; I was one myself for a brief stint in a former life. Generally speaking the vast majority of them have at least a genuine desire to advance human knowledge.

> Complex dark patterns etc.. have been routine & well-known things for quite a few years now.

That doesn't put some kind of ban on experts being surprised.

Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected

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Post by andai »

rcarmo wrote: post #124
andai wrote: post #78

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>I can't wrap my head around data collection. After Microsoft bought Skype, they changed it from p2p to centralized, so all calls were routed through NSA PRISM. This also had the result of making calls laggier and worse quality. I think there might be a bit of that sort of thing going on in other places too.

I just have to ask--what evidence do you have of that, and do you understand how SIP works?

Looked into the Snowden files a while back. 80% sure that part wasn't a dream ;)

Edit: Extraordinary claims require ... 30 seconds of Googling, apparently:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_protocol#Peer-to-peer_...

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