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Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by duskwuff »

StevenHarlow wrote: post #22
dudus wrote: post #6

I just signed up for this genAI summit but the lack of social buzz and the profile of the organizers give me a strange feeling. https://genaisummit.ai/#/ I'm afraid this is might be a fake conference created by AI. Am I crazy? I paid $500 for tickets. I almost signed up for the booth. I'll have to start emailing speakers for confirmation because it's not passing the smell test.

https://www.palaceoffinearts.org/event/genai-summit Has the event listed

The Palace of Fine Arts is a theater, not an exhibit hall. It's a completely unsuitable location for a conference.

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Post by Loughla »

duskwuff wrote: post #51
StevenHarlow wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.palaceoffinearts.org/event/genai-summit Has the event listed

The Palace of Fine Arts is a theater, not an exhibit hall. It's a completely unsuitable location for a conference.

Conference, yes. Sales pitch and/or hype presentation, no.

It may be real?

Edit: down below it says this theater will Host a conference of 30k people. No it won't. This is a scam.

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by akaru »

Cheer2171 wrote: post #44
gentleman11 wrote: post #2

The root problem is that the legal system is completely inaccessible and non-existent to individuals or small companies. Even to medium companies. Only mega corps and law firms can afford to use the legal system. Even big tech often avoids it because of the expense, but if they do use it, they’re going to win, 99.9% of the time because of their war chests So, people are semi defenceless when these things come up, and…

I've sued several businesses and individuals in small claims court (in California) including two multinationals on the S&P 500. I have no formal legal training, only what every open source dev learns through licensing. The court bureaucracy was about as hard for me to learn than learning how to convert an out of state drivers license to my new state. Finding a process server was the hardest part. You write your accou…

Go on…

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Post by spxneo »

antonvs wrote: post #13
gentleman11 wrote: post #2

The root problem is that the legal system is completely inaccessible and non-existent to individuals or small companies. Even to medium companies. Only mega corps and law firms can afford to use the legal system. Even big tech often avoids it because of the expense, but if they do use it, they’re going to win, 99.9% of the time because of their war chests So, people are semi defenceless when these things come up, and…

> completely inaccessible and non-existent to individuals or small companies. Even to medium companies. Only mega corps and law firms can afford to use the legal system. For individuals you have a point, but for small and medium companies this seems like an exaggeration. I've worked for several startups. The smallest was one that I co-founded with no outside funding - we maxed out at five employees, three of whom wer…

GP is talking about cost-prohibitiveness of legal counsel

a large company can absolutely drain your small/medium business with frivolous lawsuits.

the point is that Western judicial system largely caters to capital not justice.

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Post by mistrial9 »

antonvs wrote: post #13
gentleman11 wrote: post #2

The root problem is that the legal system is completely inaccessible and non-existent to individuals or small companies. Even to medium companies. Only mega corps and law firms can afford to use the legal system. Even big tech often avoids it because of the expense, but if they do use it, they’re going to win, 99.9% of the time because of their war chests So, people are semi defenceless when these things come up, and…

> completely inaccessible and non-existent to individuals or small companies. Even to medium companies. Only mega corps and law firms can afford to use the legal system. For individuals you have a point, but for small and medium companies this seems like an exaggeration. I've worked for several startups. The smallest was one that I co-founded with no outside funding - we maxed out at five employees, three of whom wer…

I think you have to factor in your legal jurisdiction, skill level of yourself and close associates, and the network that builds from that, to compare legal costs.. one might say that as an active and functioning startup with employment, you attracted legal talent.. some outsiders, in various jurisdictions, might have some trouble finding legal services and for the right prices.

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by spxneo »

seabass-labrax wrote: post #25
nvy wrote: post #14

This is what A16Z's vaunted techno-optimism movement has produced. A more efficient way of scamming and generating disinformation. Hooray.

What is the relationship between A16Z (Andreessen Horowitz, presumably) and this article? Is there in fact any?

its that Andreesseen is engaging in what most would describe as security fraud with crypto and that he feels emboldened by it.

lot of voices in washington to make an example out of him. not sure if he's aware

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by spxneo »

olliej wrote: post #37

Another day another abuse built into the core of the DMCA. Seriously the fact that copyright violation has 10s of thousands if not millions in penalties, but fraudulent copyright claims don’t even cover legal costs is so gross. It’s right up there with “it’s a crime for you to create derivative work, but not for a VC funded ‘AI’ company to”

here's the thing and i had my share of arguments on twitter around this

if your work is not generating $$$ its probably not worth anything to sue over

all these artists are rightfully upset that Stability is making money off them by scraping their copyrighted content from Deviant Art or Tumblr

but without significant revenues, you are at the mercy of eager class action attorneys who will take most of the winnings and are just as quick to settle for a 99% probability of cashing out.

so it is a "crime" like it would be if you would run gameboy ROMs on emulator.js and sell advertisement. It won't even register on the politicians minds.

Hollywood studio finding their work used to train LLMs? Well you saw how eager biden was taking down Megaupload.

Money talks and your content if its not owned by a large studio and not raking in significant tax revenues, its probably worthless in the minds of the judge/jury/politicians

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Post by bjterry »

duskwuff wrote: post #51
StevenHarlow wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.palaceoffinearts.org/event/genai-summit Has the event listed

The Palace of Fine Arts is a theater, not an exhibit hall. It's a completely unsuitable location for a conference.

I don't think this is true. My startup had a couple desks in the Palace of Fine Arts when they had an ill-fated attempt to convert part of it to a co-working space. They shut down co-working to turn it into a full-time event space. The building is basically one giant room, with a raised mezzanine floating above part of the floor. It has one small permanent theater on the north end, and they convert the southern end into a larger theater for music shows, and this is the seating chart being shown in the above link (I saw a Ninja Sex Party show there one time, but this theater isn't reflected on the tour photos. When I was working there in 2016 it was an exhibit for Hunger Games).

https://palaceoffinearts.com/tour/

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