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Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by jbjbjbjb » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:03 PM UTC

I was disappointed by the lack of a radar chart

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by xanderlewis » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:04 PM UTC

modeless wrote: post #8

Wait, Bowser and Wario are the fastest? I thought it was the other way around. I guess it's reversed from Mario Kart 64.

I'm not sure, but it kind of makes sense as a choice, since acceleration and speed should be negatively correlated and since Bowser and Wario are both massive they should accelerate more slowly than others (given constant force). So they get to have the highest top speeds to compensate.

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by bombcar » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:05 PM UTC

I did not know the drivers and carts made a difference at all.

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by fredsmith219 » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:07 PM UTC

My 9 yo is better than me at Mario Kart but not by much. This knowledge may make the difference for me. Thank you!

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by thiagotomei » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:08 PM UTC

modeless wrote: post #8

Wait, Bowser and Wario are the fastest? I thought it was the other way around. I guess it's reversed from Mario Kart 64.

It’s exactly as in Mario Kart 64! Remember, heavy characters have the higher top speed, but light characters have the higher acceleration!

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by thiagoharry » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:08 PM UTC

modeless wrote: post #8

Wait, Bowser and Wario are the fastest? I thought it was the other way around. I guess it's reversed from Mario Kart 64.

Yes, but with their poor acceleration, and given how chaotic some Mario Kart races are, it is hard to achieve their maximum speed.

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:09 PM UTC

Do professionals use different builds per map? For example, a map has long straightaways (favoring top speed) vs a map with more sharp turns (preferring acceleration)?

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by modeless » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:12 PM UTC

thiagotomei wrote: post #15

modeless wrote: post #8

Wait, Bowser and Wario are the fastest? I thought it was the other way around. I guess it's reversed from Mario Kart 64.

It’s exactly as in Mario Kart 64! Remember, heavy characters have the higher top speed, but light characters have the higher acceleration !

I distinctly remember that the light characters had the highest top speed in Mario Kart 64. And according to this table, I'm right: https://tasvideos.org/GameResources/N64/MarioKart64#:~:text=...

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by throwawayk7h » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:12 PM UTC

Something not mentioned in this analysis is that after summing the stats from the different components, the value is rounded down, giving 7 possible outcomes per stat.

Re: Mario meets Pareto

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 11:17 PM UTC

modeless wrote: post #8

Wait, Bowser and Wario are the fastest? I thought it was the other way around. I guess it's reversed from Mario Kart 64.

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