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Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by motoxpro »

samename wrote: post #8
dudus wrote: post #6

I just signed up for this genAI summit but the lack of social buzz and the profile of the organizers give me a strange feeling. https://genaisummit.ai/#/ I'm afraid this is might be a fake conference created by AI. Am I crazy? I paid $500 for tickets. I almost signed up for the booth. I'll have to start emailing speakers for confirmation because it's not passing the smell test.

Instagram and Twitter links in footer don’t work… I’d do a chargeback with your credit card

Same. This is the twitter link https://twitter.com/GPTDAOGLOBAL

30,000 attendees for a conference is MASSIVE. Like a GDC or SEMA or something. One of the biggest in the world. Unless it's happened before, then I have a hard time believing they just spun this up out of nowhere.

Edit: Would also have more sponsors. 2k to sponsor that/get a booth is WAAAAAY to cheap.

Edit2: Also one of the sessions is. "... text2video, text2audio, text2multimodal, text2richcontent" Sounds like a ChatGPT thing. Wild that they used, like you said, Ai, to generate an AI conference and genAI. Very meta

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by ryandrake »

icedchai wrote: post #7
lupire wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no legal threat here. It's all fake.

Sadly, many folks will assume an "official" sounding message or call is actually legitimate. Especially if it's from someone calling themselves a lawyer. Next the AI law firms will be requesting payment in iTunes gift cards...

I think there is a belief (right or wrong) among a lot of lay-people and non-lawyers that the legal system is an opaque minefield of "gotchas" where if you don't file form 27B/6 within 30 days, with a specific magical incantation X written on it, and then appear before a judge and speak magical incantation Y, then gotcha! you lose! So any time something looks even remotely official, people panic and wonder which minefield they are going to inadvertently step on, even by ignoring it.

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by antonvs »

gentleman11 wrote: post #2

The root problem is that the legal system is completely inaccessible and non-existent to individuals or small companies. Even to medium companies. Only mega corps and law firms can afford to use the legal system. Even big tech often avoids it because of the expense, but if they do use it, they’re going to win, 99.9% of the time because of their war chests So, people are semi defenceless when these things come up, and…

> completely inaccessible and non-existent to individuals or small companies. Even to medium companies. Only mega corps and law firms can afford to use the legal system.

For individuals you have a point, but for small and medium companies this seems like an exaggeration.

I've worked for several startups. The smallest was one that I co-founded with no outside funding - we maxed out at five employees, three of whom were co-founders, but nevertheless we registered and successfully defended trademarks and copyrights. That business ran until its main product became obsolete, for about 5 years.

The funded startups I've worked for all used the legal system around IP in various ways: trademarks, patents, copyright.

One of these bogus DMCA claims would be easily and cheaply dismissed by any competent lawyer. And really, probably doesn't even require a lawyer unless a hosting company acts on it and doesn't listen to any objections.

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by antonvs »

dudus wrote: post #6

I just signed up for this genAI summit but the lack of social buzz and the profile of the organizers give me a strange feeling. https://genaisummit.ai/#/ I'm afraid this is might be a fake conference created by AI. Am I crazy? I paid $500 for tickets. I almost signed up for the booth. I'll have to start emailing speakers for confirmation because it's not passing the smell test.

It says "Sponsored by Microsoft AI Co-Innovation Lab".

You could try emailing them (aiotlabs@microsoft.com, from their website) and asking whether they're really sponsoring that conference.

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Post by antonvs »

nvy wrote: post #14

This is what A16Z's vaunted techno-optimism movement has produced. A more efficient way of scamming and generating disinformation. Hooray.

Good grief. I just looked that up. What a day to have eyes.

I want a list of everyone who worked on that manifesto so I can put them on a list of "people to never interact with at any cost."

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by camillomiller »

antonvs wrote: post #16
nvy wrote: post #14

This is what A16Z's vaunted techno-optimism movement has produced. A more efficient way of scamming and generating disinformation. Hooray.

Good grief. I just looked that up. What a day to have eyes. I want a list of everyone who worked on that manifesto so I can put them on a list of "people to never interact with at any cost."

Well it's just, like, the biggest VC in the world for investments and popularity? And yes, that is extremely sad.

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

I wonder if there's something common between crypto and AI leading to the cloud of grift and predation around the ecosystems and common uses of the respective technologies. Or if this is where society is at now and it will happen with any new technology regardless.

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by seabass-labrax »

bainganbharta wrote: post #10
dudus wrote: post #6

I just signed up for this genAI summit but the lack of social buzz and the profile of the organizers give me a strange feeling. https://genaisummit.ai/#/ I'm afraid this is might be a fake conference created by AI. Am I crazy? I paid $500 for tickets. I almost signed up for the booth. I'll have to start emailing speakers for confirmation because it's not passing the smell test.

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That's a needlessly harsh judgement! To use an analogy, one should reasonably be able to attend a forensics conference without ending up as a forensics case themselves. Also, generative AI isn't just for creating fakes.

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by antonvs »

camillomiller wrote: post #17
antonvs wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good grief. I just looked that up. What a day to have eyes. I want a list of everyone who worked on that manifesto so I can put them on a list of "people to never interact with at any cost."

Well it's just, like, the biggest VC in the world for investments and popularity? And yes, that is extremely sad.

I mean, the biggest firms are generally just shitshows of FOMO and so on.

The second biggest, Sequoia, was all in on FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried right up until the collapse.

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