German state moving 30k PCs to LibreOffice

Post by Forbo » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 6:03 PM UTC

andsoitis wrote: post #253

daeros wrote: post #29

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sane policy. Every time Office 365 is down I watch the maddening dash of IT workers who can't get anything done, it's amusing.

> sane policy. Every time Office 365 is down I watch the maddening dash of IT workers who can't get anything done, it's amusing. While there might be issues with Office 365's reliability (I don't know, I use Google Docs), the online collaborative capabilities is a fantastic tradeoff. Mailing individual files amongst a group of collaborators impede productivity (even though it has other benefits). You could make the a…

Post by ChicagoDave » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

Stranger43 wrote: post #262

ChicagoDave wrote: post #108

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Most non-technical people have a pattern of work. They know how to do their job because it’s been repeated over years. This change will alter many of those patterns. Even the simplest things like text editor or using a command line will be disruptive. The support staff is going to be overwhelmed.

and yet thats only ever brought up when defending windows despite the fact that MS is cauing this kind o issues every 3-5 years. So how is it that people can go from XP->vista->10->11 and not break the bank on retraining or from windows to MacOS but somehow anything else is impossible. This is not an logically coherent argument against linux it's basically admins being scared of having their decades of investment int…

Post by HeyLaughingBoy » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 6:48 PM UTC

rawgabbit wrote: post #295

andsoitis wrote: post #253

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> sane policy. Every time Office 365 is down I watch the maddening dash of IT workers who can't get anything done, it's amusing. While there might be issues with Office 365's reliability (I don't know, I use Google Docs), the online collaborative capabilities is a fantastic tradeoff. Mailing individual files amongst a group of collaborators impede productivity (even though it has other benefits). You could make the a…

Hmmm. Compared to Google Docs and Google Drive, Microsoft's collaboration is just bizarre. Yes, under ideal conditions, teams of people technically could use Microsoft to edit and review documents online at the same time. I have yet to see it in a real world setting. Often times, where I work, we just get confused by OneDrive's links vs direct sharing vs personal onedrive vs sharepoint onedrive. And we end up sharing…

Post by xyst » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 6:52 PM UTC

jhickok wrote: post #231

xyst wrote: post #230

The licensing costs associated with MS products is stupid high. In analyzing the budget for a county, across all departments the line item for MS was ~$322K for just a 3 month span (o365??). It was the top line item for the quarter, beating out health insurance line related line items.

Seems unlikely that an M365 license that tops our around 50 dollars per month would be more expensive than health insurance.

Post by TulliusCicero » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 7:10 PM UTC

Dalewyn wrote: post #112

TulliusCicero wrote: post #103

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In those cases, there's not really a practical non-proprietary option. Whereas with a lot of software, there is a practical non-proprietary option.

In that case their question can be answered thus: Because that proprietary, closed software from a single vendor is the industry standard and you will get laughed out of the room for deviating. It's a stupid question and virtue signal statement no matter which way it goes. Either it falls down on itself from hypocrisy, or it falls down on itself from defying reality.