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German state moving 30k PCs to LibreOffice

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Re: German state moving 30k PCs to LibreOffice

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The irony of this change, is this isn't Munich any longer, many of those services might run on Azure, depend of FOSS projects that are directly or indirectly paid by Microsoft, thus they won't care as much as in the past, see sore state of Windows versus Azure.

Re: German state moving 30k PCs to LibreOffice

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Cool Hopefully they will move 30,000 wonkdows PC's to linux once Microsoft imposes the £61 annual extended security updates fee. let me open my terminal and start up python: 30000*61 1830000 £1,830,000 for the first year extended security updates and will double in consequitive years. A tad greedy! for a few old rotten wonkdows 10 machines. They first collected our data for free, then had the audacity to charge us fo…

why not just use bc?

You have to be at least 41 years old to remember that bc exists in the first place.

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Genuine question, is there any other professional field in the world where people work for free like how Software Engineers work in open source?

People working on open source don't necessarily do it for free, I know tons who are sponsored by their company.

That aside, at least in Germany, there is a considerable amount of volunteers, e.g. in social work.

Re: German state moving 30k PCs to LibreOffice

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Did not work well in Munich, my hometown, in 2004. Hope the lessons have been learned. https://itsfoss.com/munich-linux-failure/

Microsoft spent so much money to make it fail.

Still. They got a Microsoft office with a lot of well paying jobs. It's something.

Most countries could dream of such leverage over a company like Microsoft.

Re: German state moving 30k PCs to LibreOffice

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Cool Hopefully they will move 30,000 wonkdows PC's to linux once Microsoft imposes the £61 annual extended security updates fee. let me open my terminal and start up python: 30000*61 1830000 £1,830,000 for the first year extended security updates and will double in consequitive years. A tad greedy! for a few old rotten wonkdows 10 machines. They first collected our data for free, then had the audacity to charge us fo…

The English summary focuses on the move from MS Office to LibreOffice (it's a post on the Document Foundation blog, so it makes sense that this is their focus), but the original German press release (1) lists 6 pillars:

- Switching from Microsoft Office to LibreOffice

- Switching the operating system from Microsoft Windows to Linux

- Collaboration within the state administration and with external parties: Use of the open source products Nextcloud, Open Xchange/Thunderbird in conjunction with the Univention AD connector to replace Microsoft Sharepoint and Microsoft Exchange/Outlook

- Conception of an open source based directory service to replace Microsoft Active Directory

- Inventory of specialist procedures regarding compatibility and interoperability with LibreOffice and Linux

- Development of an open source based telephony solution to replace Telekom-Flexport

So it's a good bit more ambitious than replacing MS Office.

(1) https://www.schleswig-holstein.de/DE/landesregierung/ministe...

(edited for formatting/typos)

Re: German state moving 30k PCs to LibreOffice

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The germans have been tinkering with policies mandating non-cloud dependent products for a while wondering if this is a start of it actually getting implemented on a large scale or if the delay attempts will remain successful elsewhere across the region. If this is a start of an actual migration away from cloud dependence, it's a matter of time before windows(which is as cloud dependent as office those days for enter…

sane policy. Every time Office 365 is down I watch the maddening dash of IT workers who can't get anything done, it's amusing.

Re: German state moving 30k PCs to LibreOffice

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> Why should local governments use taxpayers’ money to buy proprietary, closed software from a single vendor?

I don't want to be a pessimist, but working with non-traditional tools is going to cost the taxpayers more money when important documents are not formatted correctly or the software behaves differently than the proprietary alternatives.

Linux is successful on the server because it has huge corporate backing. Linux has not been successful on the desktop because it has low corporate backing.

The cost of Microsoft Office is comparable to the cost of keeping their workplace stocked with coffee throughout the year.

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