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Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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post #128

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If you're talking about the Azerbaijan outdoor chef who digs a pit with a backhoe to barbecue a whole cow, that guy is amazing. My dad's an old pitmaster and became obsessed and sends me the guy's videos religiously.

I’m curious ! Can you share the link ? Thanks in advance

His YT channel is called "Wilderness Cooking" I think.

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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Here's what I don't get... so here in the US, saffron is generally speaking, extremely expensive and rationed carefully by cooks. Meanwhile, I watch these cooking videos on YouTube and people in villages in places like Azerbaijan are casually throwing the equivalent of $10,000 worth of saffron into their tea. Granted, I understand places like Iran (spoiler alert: not the best relationship with the US) are major produ…

In Sweden they sell bucketloads of saffron for basically a euro or two per pack. The equivalent in UK stores would have a 10x markup at least. It seems like an industry that somebody could easily capitalize on, unless there is some trade or monopoly restrictions we don’t know about.

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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Grinding with sugar is definitely the way to go. I generally buy a big wheel of Iranian Saffron on eBay or a Persian shop, then grind it all up in a mortar and pestle with some sugar and store it in a spice jar in a dark cupboard. Then when you need it you don't need to be faffing about. If you want to be fancy, save a few whole strands that you can add to rice for decoration, but using whole stamens is really not ne…

> I generally buy a big wheel of Iranian Saffron on eBay or a Persian shop Shouldn't this be a dead ringer for the stuff being fake? We don't trade with Iran.

Did you know that not everyone on HN is American? This is such a silly I'm the main character syndrome.

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grinding with sugar is definitely the way to go. I generally buy a big wheel of Iranian Saffron on eBay or a Persian shop, then grind it all up in a mortar and pestle with some sugar and store it in a spice jar in a dark cupboard. Then when you need it you don't need to be faffing about. If you want to be fancy, save a few whole strands that you can add to rice for decoration, but using whole stamens is really not ne…

> I generally buy a big wheel of Iranian Saffron on eBay or a Persian shop Shouldn't this be a dead ringer for the stuff being fake? We don't trade with Iran.

We (Australia) do -

2019: https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/AUS/yea...

2023: https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/AUS/yea...

Your blinkers are showing.

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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Here's what I don't get... so here in the US, saffron is generally speaking, extremely expensive and rationed carefully by cooks. Meanwhile, I watch these cooking videos on YouTube and people in villages in places like Azerbaijan are casually throwing the equivalent of $10,000 worth of saffron into their tea. Granted, I understand places like Iran (spoiler alert: not the best relationship with the US) are major produ…

The youtubers you see are most likely using fake saffron which is very popular.

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

#146

Here's what I don't get... so here in the US, saffron is generally speaking, extremely expensive and rationed carefully by cooks. Meanwhile, I watch these cooking videos on YouTube and people in villages in places like Azerbaijan are casually throwing the equivalent of $10,000 worth of saffron into their tea. Granted, I understand places like Iran (spoiler alert: not the best relationship with the US) are major produ…

I have a Greek friend who's family goes into the mountains and picks it. There is no market infrastructure in the villages, similar to how venison is expensive at a restaurant, yet poor rural hunters kill and eat it all the time.

I thought the venison thing was because it’s illegal to farm deer (in the US anyway).

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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Saffron's expensive by weight; but not per recipe. A teaspoon of the stuff could float away on the breeze, but few recipes call for as much as a teaspoon. A £5.00 box of saffron lasts me about 3 months, and I use the stuff weekly.

This, as an Italian I often cook rigatoni with zafferano and sausage, which is a variation on the popular saffron risotto from the north.

The way I cook it, for two people, is to put a very small amount (I guess it's around 0.1 grams or so, not much more) in a small espresso cup with a small amount of very hot water.

The saffron quickly dissolves in it, and you can then throw the water with saffron in the pasta, add some grated cheese (generally parmigiano or grana) and the sausages pieces and it's delicious.

The saffron makes a lot of difference.

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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I used to work in a spice factory. Unlike everything else, they locked the saffron up separately. There were detailed weight logs for when we hand packed (with tweezers) it into jars. We were told it was worth more by weight than cocaine.

Saffron ranges from $2 - $10 per gram for retail amounts in different parts of the world and less at wholesale. It’s expensive, but nowhere near the price of cocaine.

I have never, ever seen saffron below 5 euros per gram in Europe. Ever. ISO 1 Saffron is no less than 10 euros per gram. If it's less it's not pure and it contains other parts of the flower or worse it has been cut with something.

And that's for basic iranian saffron.

Quality italian/spanish one (strong in crocin content) is at least 30 euros per gram.

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're talking about the Azerbaijan outdoor chef who digs a pit with a backhoe to barbecue a whole cow, that guy is amazing. My dad's an old pitmaster and became obsessed and sends me the guy's videos religiously.

I’m curious ! Can you share the link ? Thanks in advance

Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/@WILDERNESSCOOKING/videos

It's not really very wildernessy since most of the time he's just outside his house, but still quite interesting and a good inspirational resource.

Re: Saffron: The Most Expensive Spice

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Here's what I don't get... so here in the US, saffron is generally speaking, extremely expensive and rationed carefully by cooks. Meanwhile, I watch these cooking videos on YouTube and people in villages in places like Azerbaijan are casually throwing the equivalent of $10,000 worth of saffron into their tea. Granted, I understand places like Iran (spoiler alert: not the best relationship with the US) are major produ…

You can probably grow saffron yourself. I live in northern Europe and when its season some of the seed shops here stock live Crocus sativus.
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