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Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Re: Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Post by gr8_commission »

ByQuyzzy wrote: post #9
cultofmetatron wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well its a good thing its too expensive for you then. They are marketing this to the rich. on a more serious note. we are gettin pushback on people eating vegetarian. people will "not eat the bugs" and yet people also want to have unmitigated population control and increase our net energy usage. something has to give...

What's this "we" stuff, you speak like we already have one world government and as if I'm responsible for providing food for people all over the globe. The future is regionalization, not more globalization. War is already killing globalism and it will intensify soon.

Could you expand on this or provide some reading material regarding regionalization?

Re: Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Post by stevep98 »

I see they are going for the high-end market. Seems the right path to me, for now, since they can charge high prices for foie gras without the guilt.

We eat beef, chicken, pork, and lamb, because they taste good, and are cheap to make because we can domesticate the animals.

What if exotic meats taste better, but we can't eat them because the animals are endangered, or dangerous, or undomesticable. Maybe lion, rhino, elephant, koala, meats etc taste really good. Growing these meats in the lab eliminates* these ethical problems.

Or what if they taste good, but they are too tough? Again, cultured meat process can interleave layers of fats to break up the muscle. Another win.

Just look at the nuance between the difference in taste between lamb and beef. There's so much difference, and I see so much potential here to explore different flavors.

* or maybe just exacerbates poaching, if it's cheaper to poach than grown in lab :/

Re: Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Post by aszantu »

stevep98 wrote: post #12

I see they are going for the high-end market. Seems the right path to me, for now, since they can charge high prices for foie gras without the guilt. We eat beef, chicken, pork, and lamb, because they taste good, and are cheap to make because we can domesticate the animals. What if exotic meats taste better, but we can't eat them because the animals are endangered, or dangerous, or undomesticable. Maybe lion, rhino,…

I'd eat lab grown octopus any time, usually I avoid them for ethical reasons

Re: Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Post by helsinkiandrew »

fbdab103 wrote: post #7

A parfait made from Japanese quail cells has become the first Australian lab-grown meat to hit the world market. Singapore's food regulator approved Vow's quail foie gras for sale in March, making it only the second cell-cultured meat product to become available in the island city-state. Not exactly what I would call a parfait. Wikipedia is telling me this is a France/UK divide where it somehow refers to both creamy…

> Not exactly what I would call a parfait. Wikipedia is telling me this is a France/UK divide where it somehow refers to both creamy fruit desert and meat paste.

That got me too - they seem to be using the term parfait because it sounds more appetising than textureless quail flavoured slush.

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Post by Kluggy »

fbdab103 wrote: post #7

A parfait made from Japanese quail cells has become the first Australian lab-grown meat to hit the world market. Singapore's food regulator approved Vow's quail foie gras for sale in March, making it only the second cell-cultured meat product to become available in the island city-state. Not exactly what I would call a parfait. Wikipedia is telling me this is a France/UK divide where it somehow refers to both creamy…

mousse Is the same. Could be meat. Could be chocolate.

Re: Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Post by NotGMan »

It makes no sense to go for the high end market IMO: the point of "high end" in stuff like this is signaling, NOT nutrition.

The people who buy the highly priced stuff did so because it's rare in the real world, this is what gave it luxury and signal.

Factory made slop is the opposite of luxurious rarity, no matter how high you put the price.

Re: Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Post by cultofmetatron »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #6
cultofmetatron wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well its a good thing its too expensive for you then. They are marketing this to the rich. on a more serious note. we are gettin pushback on people eating vegetarian. people will "not eat the bugs" and yet people also want to have unmitigated population control and increase our net energy usage. something has to give...

I've heard from a bunch of different sources that most land humans use for farming is specifically for animal agriculture and that if everyone went vegetarian, something like 20% of the land would be required. I'm hoping that if lab grown meat takes off and becomes affordable for your average person, we might be able to give back some of the land that was de-forested for animal agriculture back to nature.

> we might be able to give back some of the land that was de-forested for animal agriculture back to nature.

I'd love to see this too but I think its expecting too much of human nature. its 2024 and we have problems with people capturing bears for their bile. a substance that can be trivially produced in a lab for pennies. People as a whole dont' care about nature unless they are educated about it.

I mean, you'd be surprised how many people give me looks when I buy something and refuse the bag. "but its free."

Re: Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Post by ehnto »

NotGMan wrote: post #16

It makes no sense to go for the high end market IMO: the point of "high end" in stuff like this is signaling, NOT nutrition. The people who buy the highly priced stuff did so because it's rare in the real world, this is what gave it luxury and signal. Factory made slop is the opposite of luxurious rarity, no matter how high you put the price.

People signal with high prices as well, luxury clothing for example is not rare, or scare, or even all that good.

For some the excess spend is the signal, and there has been an aspect of cost signalling in organic grown goods for a long time. It takes time and money to eat only organic or vegan and so there has been a status signal there for ages.

That is where I see this fitting. "I have money so I don't need your barbarian meats"

Re: Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore

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Post by pingou »

"There's no point trying to replicate beef, chicken or pork. It's a fool's errand," he said. "So instead, let's use this new technology to offer something which is distinctive from what we already consume."

What is the point of creating meat if it's to make something totally different? Do it with vegetables then (although yes, nutritionally it could be interesting). I want to eat meat without the ethical issues associated with it.

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