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'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza
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#232Already deleted, that was quick. If we can’t trust AI to drive a car, how the hell can we trust it to pick who lives and who dies?
In all fairness, driving a car is a lot more complicated and full of dangerous edge cases than dropping objects or shooting anyone within a geofence.
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#233HN has a serious problem if factual technology stories cannot exist here because some people don't like the truth. This should be advertised. The true price of AI is people using computers to make decisions no decent person would. It's not a feature, it's a war crime.
This is not new and dang and the others are absolutely fine with posts getting gang-flagged in a matter of minutes. Just shows how impartial they are.
Complicit is the word you're looking for.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
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There are still millions of Palestinians left to kill After that there will be the surrounding countries to deal with. Who is going to die to fight these? Americans? After Afghanistan you expect them to come to the rescue forever? I'm not sure this has been thought through
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#235The Guardian has this story on the front page also, they were given details about it pre-publishing, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai... And, personally, I think that stories like this are of public interest - while I won’t ask for it directly, I hope the flag is removed and the discussion can happen.
This is the now-flagged to death HN thread on the Guardian version [0] I would hope they can be unflagged and merged, this appears to be an important story about a novel use of technology. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39917727
It's flagged now, too. It's all so tiring.
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#237I wonder if the WCK assassinations were related to this.
Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza
#238Why is this flagged? Our premiere AI geniuses were all sqawking to congress about the dangers of AI and here we see that "they essentially treated the outputs of the AI machine “as if it were a human decision.” Sounds like you want to censor information that could hurt your bottomline.
HN, both its community and the moderators, flag posts that generate a lot of conflict in the comments. The comments on this are especially bad by HN standards and therefore the flagging is inline with how the site is openly operated.
I am pro Palestine and not simping for Israel. I think visibility on Israel's actions matter, but HN is also very clearly not the appropriate website for a lot of politically involved news.
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#239As bad as this story makes the Israelis sound, it still reads like ass-covering to make it sound like they were at least trying to kill militants. It's been clear from the start that they've been targeting journalists, medical staff and anyone involved in aid distribution, with the goal of rendering life in Gaza impossible.
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