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'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by supposemaybe »

bitcharmer wrote: post #92
jacooper wrote: post #68

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Sadly you're right, our US-based peers will flag this into oblivion. Israel are the good guys, read it in a newspaper.

IDF flag everything. You just need to watch the live comments on any YT video about what they are doing in Gaza to see they have a mommoth operation going on of silencing everything and putting up lots of Anti Muslim vile.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by mistermann »

"This will get flagged to death in minutes as what happens to all mentions of israel atrocities here" (now dead)

It maybe worth noting that there is at least one notification service out there to draw attention to such posts. Joel spolsky even mentioned such a service that existed back when stackoverflow was first being built.

Human coordination is arguably the most powerful force in existence, especially when coordinating to do certain things.

Also interesting: it would seem(!) that once an article is flagged, it isn't taken down but simply disappears from the articles list. This is quite interesting in a wide variety of ways if you think about it from a global cause and effect perspective, and other perspectives[1]!

Luckily, we can rest assured that all is probably well.

[1] https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/perception-problem/

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by uxp100 »

hunglee2 wrote: post #72

AI generated kill lists are sadly inevitable. Had hoped we'd get a few more years before we'd actually see it being deployed. Lots to think about here

Depending on your definition of AI they’ve probably been around for a while.

This does seem to be a big step more “AI” than previous systems I’ve heard described though.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by raxxorraxor »

harimau777 wrote: post #65
factorialboy wrote: post #16

Can we please discuss the merits of this article — role of AI in future conflicts — without taking sides on any of the ongoing wars?

The issue as I see it is that the tools available don't just determine how a given war is fought, they also determine whether it is fought at all. If Israel wasn't able to use tools like this, then it probably wouldn't be viable for them to identify much of Hamas (that's kind of the point of guerilla warfare). Since that would make it difficult to fight a war efficiently, they would be more likely to engage in diplom…

Very doubtful. There is no room for any diplomacy after such an attack. It would be fought with more primitive weapons and the side with more bombs would prevail.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by skidd0 »

randysalami wrote: post #109

I wonder how accurate this technology really is or if they care so little for the results and instead more for the optics of being seen as advanced. On one hand, it’s scary to think this technology exists but on the other, it might just be a pile of junk since the output is so biased. What’s even scarier is that it’s proof that people in power don’t care about “correct”, they care about having a justification to conf…

I think optics of being advanced aren't the main goal. Some form of "justification", no matter how flimsy, especially if it's hard to audit how the "AI" came to it's conclusions, is the goal. Now anyone is a target. Similar to cops in the US "smelling weed" or dogs "signaling". It provides the means to justify any search, or in this case, any kill. The machine grinds away..
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