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'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by rowanseymour »

ajot wrote: post #39

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The IDF is headquartered in the middle of Tel Aviv. Unlike them, the Palestinian resistance groups in Gaza don't have a lot of options. It's effectively a concentration camp and it's one of the most densely populated areas on earth. So you're effectively saying you don't accept Palestinians have a right to resist their colonization. Just say that, rather than trying to hide behind "human shield" tropes.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by rany_ »

XorNot wrote: post #28
malfist wrote: post #3

There is no justification for killing noncombatants, even if AI told you you could.

This is not what the article is about, and not what AI was being used for.

Read between the lines, they're trying to blame their AI for the civilian casualties.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by gizmo686 »

factorialboy wrote: post #16

Can we please discuss the merits of this article — role of AI in future conflicts — without taking sides on any of the ongoing wars?

I'm not sure that is possible. The nature and limitations of current AI technology means that it is almost impossible to talk about it without coming to certain conclusions about the party using it.

To put it bluntly, useing AI to decide on targets for lethal operations in unconsiounable given the current and forseable state of technology.

Come back to me when it can be trusted to make mortgage eligability questions without engaging in what would be blatantly illegal discrimination if not laundered by a computer algorithm.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by supposemaybe »

rany_ wrote: post #19
realPubkey wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Really? I guess they're just "following orders" from the AI then. What a shameful response, if Russia did this or if the roles were reversed you'd be appalled.

When you look at the map of Gaza, it looks like the AI must have told them to bomb every single house that was still standing.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by harimau777 »

2devnull wrote: post #36

Probably going to be flame city in this thread, but I think it’s worth asking: is it possible that even with collateral damage (killing women and children because of hallucinations) that AI based killing technology is actually more ethical and safer than warfare that doesn’t use AI. But AI is really just another name for math, so maybe it’s not a useful conversation. Militaries use advanced tech and that’s nothing ne…

I think that depends on what the alternative is. It seems to me that the problem is that there's no way for Israel to wipe out Hamas without massive collateral damage. However, instead of giving up on wiping out Hamas, they just decided that they are OK with the collateral damage.
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