'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza • Hacker News Board

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by smt88 » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:31 PM UTC

I know many people won't read past the headline, but please try to.

This is the second paragraph:

"In addition to talking about their use of the AI system, called Lavender, the intelligence sources claim that Israeli military officials permitted large numbers of Palestinian civilians to be killed, particularly during the early weeks and months of the conflict."

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:31 PM UTC

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Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by duxup » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:31 PM UTC

NarcissistDev wrote: post #7

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> Is this them trying to pass blame to the AI for its genocidal ways?

No I don’t think so.

I didn’t get the impression that is the intent.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by CubsFan1060 » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:31 PM UTC

factorialboy wrote: post #16

Can we please discuss the merits of this article — role of AI in future conflicts — without taking sides on any of the ongoing wars?

I am going to bet the answer to your question is "No"

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by twojacobtwo » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:32 PM UTC

hugodan wrote: post #13

malfist wrote: post #3

There is no justification for killing noncombatants, even if AI told you you could.

There is no justification for killing.

There are some justifications for killing. Like if you can save many lives by killing one. But in general, I agree with you.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:32 PM UTC

factorialboy wrote: post #16

Can we please discuss the merits of this article — role of AI in future conflicts — without taking sides on any of the ongoing wars?

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Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by basil-rash » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:32 PM UTC

factorialboy wrote: post #16

Can we please discuss the merits of this article — role of AI in future conflicts — without taking sides on any of the ongoing wars?

No, probably not. When the topic at hand is the selection criteria used to justify the killing of tens of thousands of civilians, your stance on whether the ones killing tens of thousands of civilians are justified in doing so is rather intrinsic.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by XorNot » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:32 PM UTC

malfist wrote: post #3

There is no justification for killing noncombatants, even if AI told you you could.

This is not what the article is about, and not what AI was being used for.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by RUnconcerned » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:32 PM UTC

jijji wrote: post #9

that would explain the news today of how Israel killed seven aid workers in Gaza [0] [0] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-we-know-so-fa...

They didn't want to kill the aid workers, but the evil AI made them do it.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Post by supposemaybe » Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 2:33 PM UTC

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