I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…
The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)
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Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What (...) happened to easily sending data, over the Internet And for mobile phones - without internet is similar, unnecessarily hard. The other day I was hiking with friends, and wanted to share a .gpx file with the route, at some spot with no cell coverage. I thought: "I 'member, bluetooth can send files". Well, we spent good 15 minutes trying and miserably failed, that's no longer possible in the name of "securi…
There are many ways of sending files between phones, none of them good. Bluetooth can work, but it is slow as hell, and Apple doesn't support it. Cloud services are convenient, but you not only you need some signal, but you also uses up your data plan. If you have USB OTG support, you can simply use a thumb drive, like with your PC, but it is cumbersome and you need the hardware. There are some somewhat proprietary s…
But localsend has worked well for me. Yes, it requires an app but if we could get vendors to bundle that rather than a boatload of bloatware.
I know that it would be to optimistic to hope for Google.
Spread the word.
Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)
#123> If you ask the average person what the company 3M does, odds are if they have a few gray hairs hanging out on their scalp, they might say that the company makes floppy disks. That's crazy, I wouldn't think anyone would first and foremost associate 3M with floppies instead of adhesives, even those with a few grays like myself. They make post-its for chrissake, and we're gonna pretend they're most known for floppies?
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#124I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…
But yeah, on demand(ish), always available(ish) content kind of changed the game.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the past 15 years, what’s kept me from keeping a collection of CDs and blurays is the space they take up. It’s nothing compared to say vinyl records or VHS tapes, but it’s still substantial if you have more than just a handful and makes moving that much more of a pain. Now that I own a house I have a few favorite CDs that get frequent listening, but still no blurays, mainly because there’s not much I rewatch often…
there was also writable media. so... how about one blu-ray of MP3s?
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
>It’d be cool if a physical medium that’s sized similarly to regular SD cards caught on. What's wrong with SD cards?
They have a limited lifetime. It's a fairly long limited lifetime, sure, but unless you're reading and rewriting the data on the cards regularly, you can't rely on them to all still be intact a decade down the line. Which is a shame, because I kinda love the idea of my music collection being stored in a little cube that unfolds to reveal a hundred or so micro SD cards.
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#127I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…
For a while, I used a SyJet on a SCSI controller as a secondary hard drive for dual booting. Back in that era, I had to patch the Linux kernel to add my Adaptec SCSI card's ID to the list of PCI IDs it recognized, but the driver worked fine once that was done, and the official sources soon caught up.
It worked well, but I rapidly outgrew it, and the cartridges were expensive and hard to find.
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#128Man seeing some of those disk manufacturers names brings me back to when I used to order bulk purchases of 5.25" floppies from a catalog and sell them at a profit out of my high school locker. And then of course, there was the trick of using a hole punch to add a second write-enable hole to the left side of the disk so you could flip it over and use the back for an extra 140K of storage.
>when I used to order bulk purchases of 5.25" floppies from a catalog Imsai!
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of houses used paper records and folders to store them in. The folders would often use ring binds that required the papers to be hole punched.
Sure, agree completely, although I wonder why you believe I may not know that? Yet lots of houses bought pre-punched paper, or just didn't use ring binders. The 18% is just a throw out number, and the concept is a joke, yet... I'm sure there was some increase in hole punch purchases. Because... I bought one as a kid, after getting tired of cutting a ragged hole with scissors.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have a limited lifetime. It's a fairly long limited lifetime, sure, but unless you're reading and rewriting the data on the cards regularly, you can't rely on them to all still be intact a decade down the line. Which is a shame, because I kinda love the idea of my music collection being stored in a little cube that unfolds to reveal a hundred or so micro SD cards.
I'm surprised nobody has made SD cards with mask-programmed ROM or even traditional write-once PROM.