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7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by dewey »

TillE wrote: post #77
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it's cool that Wikipedia could be used for breaking news, "Recentism"[0] is generally not seen favorably on Wikipedia [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recentism

Wikipedia itself isn't ideal for this, but I keep waiting for some major news institution to migrate away from the ancient newspaper article format and towards something more wiki-like for covering stories. I think you could productively fit any kind of news coverage into a wiki article plus a stream of recent updates.

Having a newspaper article giving context and then having updates at the bottom isn't really something that doesn't exist. It happens all the time.

Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by dewey »

Intralexical wrote: post #129
komali2 wrote: post #83

The Circle line has dislodged https://www.setn.com/News.aspx?NewsID=1448651 Live stream of news about the incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SydScnOrmf8 There's been pretty big aftershocks like clockwork after, it's gonna be a hard day. My dog is freaked out, my fish tanks are half empty, we're not sure if we can open the restaurant since the MRT is closed and our chef lives quite far, and that's just life in…

> Edit: I'm furious with YouTube for forcing this to be a "short" with bad-on-purpose UX but here's a video of odd water behavior in a port https://youtube.com/shorts/91Rmacvw4ho?si=d78KAUvDTeg_ovbh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Rmacvw4ho https://youtube.com/v/91Rmacvw4ho

I think my first thought would be to go to the highest point I could find instead of filming the water. Scary!

Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by scoofy »

rjzzleep wrote: post #138
bobthepanda wrote: post #133

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Which is why the advice has always been to hide under something sturdy, like a table or bed. For the most part, it should break the impact of anything on top falling onto it.

Table or bed? What they teach here locally is to get under a door frame or a pillar. I guess that recommendation has something to do with construction codes. When your walls are made out of light wood a sturdy table might protect you from fractured pieces I guess.

If I remember from Introduction to Natural Disasters in college, the door frame example is mainly for masonry buildings, and is a bit of a historical artifact.

My understanding is that advice today strongly suggests getting under something sturdy in the attempt to end up in a void during a collapse event.

Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by robocat »

furyofantares wrote: post #48
northwest65 wrote: post #17

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As somebody who has been through more than 10 thousand quakes, it's as significant as the force itself. 7.4 @ 300km deep you just yawn and roll over. @10km deep you pray your concrete roof tiles don't come through the ceiling and kill you in your bed... you basically just lie on top of your wife, give thanks for the time you did have, and hope for the best.

> As somebody who has been through more than 10 thousand quakes What's this now?

It's a bullshit number - ignore it. The same location could have had 1, 10, 1000 or 1000000 quakes depending on the threshold chosen. Or if just talking about ones you can feel, then the count varies a lot depending on exact location (and your sensitivity).

And the time and strength distribution of aftershocks is not linear - so the number gives you no feeling for what it means.

Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by pests »

TillE wrote: post #77
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it's cool that Wikipedia could be used for breaking news, "Recentism"[0] is generally not seen favorably on Wikipedia [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recentism

Wikipedia itself isn't ideal for this, but I keep waiting for some major news institution to migrate away from the ancient newspaper article format and towards something more wiki-like for covering stories. I think you could productively fit any kind of news coverage into a wiki article plus a stream of recent updates.

That's just love coverage CNN and major news do nowadays. Find the live event page and there's minute by minute updates, background information / quick recap, other sources and links, images, etc all updated in real time.

Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by komali2 »

hojinkoh wrote: post #117
thangngoc89 wrote: post #55

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It happened too early 8:03 AM. Probably no visitor or even staff in Taipei 101. Last time videos are all from visitor.

I can't imagine how terrifying it will be if I was on Taipei 101 during this quake...

There's no building I'd rather be in during an earthquake in all of Taiwan.

Scratch that - a TSMC fabrication facility is probably safer.

Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by komali2 »

burgerquizz wrote: post #107

not easy to find good devs in taipei, so shameless plug: for folks living in taipei, who want to find a good english speaking dev community: https://join.taipeidev.com

Haha ok fellow coffee coworker, if we're plugging then I'm plugging the co-op https://508.dev

Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by wiredfool »

hojinkoh wrote: post #117
thangngoc89 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It happened too early 8:03 AM. Probably no visitor or even staff in Taipei 101. Last time videos are all from visitor.

I can't imagine how terrifying it will be if I was on Taipei 101 during this quake...

You shouldn't be.

Tall buildings (> 40 floors) are one of the safer places to be in an earthquake.

1) They're engineered.

2) They're already designed for side loads from wind.

3) Their fundamental frequency is well lower than the peak of the earthquake spectrum, so they don't amplify the motion. Good rule of thumb is that period = floors/10, so fo a 50 story building you're looking at a 5 second period. Earthquakes have most of their energy in ~1 second period waves. So effectively, the base wiggles and the top just floats along.

The place to be terrified is in a 6-10 story unreinforced masonry apartment building.

Re: 7.4 earthquake in Taiwan, 34km depth

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Post by komali2 »

mmsc wrote: post #131

Maybe not the right place to ask, but what’s the tech scene like in Taiwan? Other than TSMC, are there any interesting things going on? I’m in Kaohsiung but haven’t investigated the scene.

You're in for a treat - the tech scene here is phenomenal.

First of all, obviously we have some of the best hardware engineers on the planet, but they all work at TSMC / nvidia and live in Hsinchu so those of us in Taipei never really get to hang out with them.

If you're into it, there's a shitton of cryptocurrency companies and devs out here.

TONS of gamedev companies, especially in the mobile market.

The market is all over the place, we have some really god-tier engineers and then hordes of people building the worst websites on earth in Java / Spring or PHP.

My favorite thing about tech here is the newly formed Ministry of Digital Affairs, headed by https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=audreyt , who is quite famous in the FOSS world. You can just go to their office during open office hours and have a discussion with them if you want to talk about digital issues, as long as you agree to the conversation being published for anyone to watch.

In line with that is the supremely awesome g0v: https://g0v.tw/intl/en/ Their regular hackathons and slack server constitute an incredible community of tech-associated activists building all sorts of solutions to problems such as fake news (which is a huge problem in Taiwan due to CPC spies / saboteurs), illegal factories, civil defense, etc. If you're in gaoxiong, I highly recommend coming up to Taipei for the next hackathon!

In taipei there's also lots of groups doing regular coworking meetups as well as self-study nights, in English. As for mandarin, I mean, take your pick, every university is chock full of clubs, not to mention meetup.com.

I've been building a software engineering co-op to connect the really skilled english-speaking engineers here with gigs that are befitting their skill level, we're at https://508.dev .

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