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Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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I maxed out my G4 Cube with an SSD, ATI card and a Sonnet Encore CPU to push it to 1.25Ghz — To this date still my most inspiring machine and just lovely for the occasional ReBirth session.

For the majority of readers who probably won’t know what that is, ReBirth was a soft synthesiser that was the precursor to Propellerheads Reason, one of the most famous DAWs.

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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A friend of mine had one of these. It had a very nice keyboard, with curved keys and a sort of homey feel.

It's even edge-to-edge! Something that the current MacBook lineup doesn't feature.

Logitech Wave Keys remined me (slightly) of it.

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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I respect anyone brave or foolish enough to do a drive swap on a iBook.

I've performed this procedure numerous times. While it's not particularly difficult, it requires patience - a LOT of patience. Dozens of the world's smallest Philips-head screws. The iFixit guide helps tremendously. What strikes me as nostalgic is how repairable these machines were. No proprietary screws, the HDD used a standard (at the time) form factor and interface. The batteries could even be torn down and rebuil…

I replaced a keyboard on a unibody MacBook pro. 52 absolutely tiny screws to hold it in.

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've performed this procedure numerous times. While it's not particularly difficult, it requires patience - a LOT of patience. Dozens of the world's smallest Philips-head screws. The iFixit guide helps tremendously. What strikes me as nostalgic is how repairable these machines were. No proprietary screws, the HDD used a standard (at the time) form factor and interface. The batteries could even be torn down and rebuil…

I replaced a keyboard on a unibody MacBook pro. 52 absolutely tiny screws to hold it in.

Newer models have the keyboard riveted in. Hugh Jefferys replaced one and it seems bonkers to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Purem1NF0

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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I maxed out my G4 Cube with an SSD, ATI card and a Sonnet Encore CPU to push it to 1.25Ghz — To this date still my most inspiring machine and just lovely for the occasional ReBirth session.

For the majority of readers who probably won’t know what that is, ReBirth was a soft synthesiser that was the precursor to Propellerheads Reason, one of the most famous DAWs.

Hey there are dozens of us out here still using rebirth. ;)

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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This is not an easy task. For those of you that don’t know the iBook G4’s logic board and hard drive are essential hermetically sealed in the plastic case AND a second layer of metal. I ruined my first iBook G4 when attempting this same upgrade as the ribbon cables that connect the power button and LEDs ripped in half from age (very brittle). I bought another used iBook G4. It still has the stock 60 GB hard disk and now the slot-loading “Super Drive” is dead so I will have to fix it eventually If I want to keep using it. I actually bought a used PowerPC G4 MacBook Pro to use and these are WAY easier to work on, just a few screws and you have access to everything.

I will note to anyone reading this the €79 Amiga-like Morph OS is really good experience on these 32-bit single core PowerPC Macs, very snappy. I also installed Debian 12 Trixie using the Sid branch on my iBook G4 via the USB-A port and using guides (and links to files to get WiFi working) on the Mac Rumours forum I got it working perfectly. Using the Window Maker Window Manager it’s snappy and you get NeXTStep?OPENSTEP experience.

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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I put an SSD in a MacBook pro late 2009 and I love it! I installed Windows 10 and Ubuntu 22.04.

I tried compiling my website with a php/apache and a mariadb containers in docker. I thought that maybe Vite would take forever to compile but no it ran almost the same as my current PC. I was really amazed at how well it all still runs. The main lag I noticed is when you move from page to page the Vite server takes up to a second to deliver the JS, although it is a bit faster when you move back to the same pages.

Sublime Text latest version is smooth as butter.

In Windows 10 I'm able to play Guild Wars, emulators like DuckStation and SameBoy. The GeForce 9400M is still pretty capable. Tomb Raider Anniversary.

I have never replaced the battery! I did a battery full charge and store the laptop at 50% charge, at first it was 2-3times a year and in recent years I even forgot and charged it only once a year. It still shows ~90% full charge capacity. With just browsing and casual use including YouTube the battery runs for at least a couple hours!

When I first booted up this old MacBook, it was an old version of macOS. It looked so dated that it felt like the laptop was good for the bin. I needed a laptop as I move into a co-loc arrangement, something to keep busy until I can set up a new desk etc and I'm really stoked how well it still runs and how usable it is.

The funniest part of all that is ... wait for it... I OPENED the MacBook Pro and upgraded the RAM and the HDD. HHAHAHAHAHAHAAH. It's gotta be the joke of the century. Someday it will be.

With that said for this late 2009 MacBook Pro these are the main downsides :

- the screen is probably the main downside : all the colours look off unless you are totally facing, which means bad posture, and the brighter colours tend to be washed out so you can't really do any decent UX work as all the subtle gradients and color tones are out the window

- stuck with USB 2

- VSCode is pretty usable but you can hear the fans revving up, CPU usage constantly up and down anywhere from 10 to 90% peaks

When I revived the laptop I did in this order:

First I installed Ubuntu 22.04 from a USB key, this worked right out of the bat, I told the installer to just erase the disk. It worked like a charm.

Later I realized I wanted Windows for games. This MBP models apparently won't let you install Windows from a USB key - something to do with the baked in BIOS? I really couldn't bother burning a DVD, fortunately I had an old OG copy of Windows 7 Home Edition Upgrade. I booted the DVD and installed Windows 7, using a generic activation key. Then I inserted a USB key with the Windows 10 ISO which I had prepared earlier, and started the upgrade from within Windows 7. This time I used a key I bought online. The activation didn't work as planned, I called the Microsoft call center, and I just told the person I bought an OEM key etc and they activated it.

So at this point I could simply hold the Alt key while booting to select the drive and it was dual booting perfectly fine.

However I ran into one limitation : I was not able to `mount` the Windows NTFS partition from within Ubuntu. It seems this could be baked in the custom Apple BIOS? The Ubuntu partition somehow can not see the "bootcamp" partition.

I installed reFIT thinking that it would solve the issue but it didn't change anything, just gave me a boot menu that is uglier and doesn't give me any functionality. I wish I didn't install reFIT but it's not a big deal it just shows me an icon for Ubuntu and Windows - honestly the builtin menu on the MBP looks nicer and I believe you could also customize the original boot menu's icons (but I am not sure I would have been able to do this after nuking the macOS partition).

I'm really thrilled with how well it has been running for me the last couple weeks. Been playing a ton of Guild Wars on it.

There's such a satisfaction from making an old hardware not just usable, but actually really useful. And I love that being so old, I don't have to worry about scratching it - even if mine still looks like mint.

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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It's great fun to put SSDs in retro machines, but I usually opt to use SLC drives for SSD-unaware operating systems. It supposedly can have two orders of magnitude more cycles before the cells start to die. On the other hand, there's lots of conflicting information out there, so not sure if it really makes that much of a difference.

It definitely speeds up the data transfer rate and makes them a lot faster, a better experience. Sadly you're still limited to 1 processor core in a world where most computers that are in active use have at least have 2 processor cores.

For example I bought a "PiStorm" for my Amiga 1200 computer that uses the Raspberry Pi 4 Model B for processing power (RTG Graphics, RAM, and data storage too via the SD card) and it made my Amiga 1200 useable for daily driving but it's the 4 core Raspberry Pi 4 Model B doing all the heavy lifting, not the Amiga. All I use is the keyboard and the proprietary bespoke chips when playing games that "hit the hardware".

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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post #14

I maxed out my G4 Cube with an SSD, ATI card and a Sonnet Encore CPU to push it to 1.25Ghz — To this date still my most inspiring machine and just lovely for the occasional ReBirth session.

For the majority of readers who probably won’t know what that is, ReBirth was a soft synthesiser that was the precursor to Propellerheads Reason, one of the most famous DAWs.

I thought he was referring to Final Fantasy

Re: I upgraded my iBook G4 to have an SSD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably don't run 24/7 disk activity on these retro machines, so SLC is probably not worth it?

Especially now that the consumer SSD market has entirely moved on to TLC and QLC, there isn't a new SLC drive you can buy for a reasonable price anymore. Even if a TLC drive would wear out more quickly in an old SSD-unaware system, they are so cheap at this point that it's not really worth worrying about.

I think it’s worth worrying about on an iBook. The hard drive is in between the motherboard and the palmrest, so replacing it basically involves taking the entire machine completely apart (including having to deal with a ton of really tight snap points). It’s definitely not something you want to do more than once, and I’m not sure how many disassembly cycles the 20 year old plastic can take.
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