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Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're nailing it--some black hat has figured out the encoding and is making fake stamps. Same as gift card draining.

Wouldn't surprise me if the "encoding" was just unencrypted UUIDs.

That would mean there's no encoding to crack, but it could still be going on if it's an inside job. Someone has access somewhere in the production process, notes valid codes. Could be a camera hidden somewhere.

Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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If this is really about a fine for counterfeiting a stamp, isn't £5 astonishingly low? In the US that's a serious federal felony with up to five years in prison. https://puryearlaw.com/2015/12/27/federal-counterfeit-postag...

It's not really a fine for using the counterfeit stamp. After all, the recipient pays it and they had nothing to do with acquiring or placing the stamp whatsoever.

So it's not really a fine in the criminal sense. And I assume you don't admit any wrongdoing or avoid prosecution by paying it. It's more like a processing surcharge.

Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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If this is really such a huge problem, the solution seems simple: simply let every mailbox scan the stamp before accepting the letter. For parcels this is being done already at the drop off point.

The mailbox could verify the stamp barcode and refuse it if it's invalid, or require a simple contactless payment when no stamp (or an invalid one) is present. Problem solved. It would also be handy because you don't need to keep stamps in stock for that once off time you need to post something.

Of course this tech hasn't existed for most of the life of the postal system but it does now. So why not do that?

Fining the recipient who had nothing to do with the alleged crime in question is a bit disingenious. It's something that was unavoidable in the past but not now.

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