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First Council of Nicaea

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Re: First Council of Nicaea

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Not sure why this is on HN. Council of Nicaea is a favorite flashpoint for conspiracy theory people. But in reality it wasn't all that special. It was just one event in many that shaped Christianity. Basically its like a ISO Standards meeting. Lots of old guys making obscure arguments based on interpretations of obscure text about things that essentially don't matter outside of a bunch of nerds. The connection betwee…

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Re: First Council of Nicaea

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Not sure why this is on HN. Council of Nicaea is a favorite flashpoint for conspiracy theory people. But in reality it wasn't all that special. It was just one event in many that shaped Christianity. Basically its like a ISO Standards meeting. Lots of old guys making obscure arguments based on interpretations of obscure text about things that essentially don't matter outside of a bunch of nerds. The connection betwee…

Elon musk tweeted it

Re: First Council of Nicaea

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I suppose this is relevant on account of it being Easter. Growing up Catholic, we always said the Nicene Creed during Mass, which kind of enumerates the standard Catholic beliefs. I never thought much about it, but a non-Christian friend who joined me one time said thought it was creepy and cult like, us all standing there saying it in unison. I appreciated a universal, orthodox set of beliefs determined to be "corre…

Protestants still recite the nicean creed assuming they have a high church setting. With modern worship , all bets are off.

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Arianism is easily in my top 3 heterodoxies. (Along with Pelagianism and Lollardism, though the moment Charismatic Catholicism is officially condemned Wycliffe gets bumped to an ignoble 4).

Not catholic, just an enjoyer of church history.

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Can you just stop? It's really a much worse thing than whatever your problem with a wikipedia article is. There's reams of mod commentary about it. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

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Arianism is easily in my top 3 heterodoxies. (Along with Pelagianism and Lollardism, though the moment Charismatic Catholicism is officially condemned Wycliffe gets bumped to an ignoble 4). Not catholic, just an enjoyer of church history.

The "pantheism" ascribed to Spinoza (as alluded to by Einstein) is my favourite.

(and Dirk Willems my favourite martyr, although I do find it highly apropos that Barbara is the patron saint of the РВСН)

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Arianism is easily in my top 3 heterodoxies. (Along with Pelagianism and Lollardism, though the moment Charismatic Catholicism is officially condemned Wycliffe gets bumped to an ignoble 4). Not catholic, just an enjoyer of church history.

The "pantheism" ascribed to Spinoza (as alluded to by Einstein) is my favourite. (and Dirk Willems my favourite martyr, although I do find it highly apropos that Barbara is the patron saint of the РВСН)

Spinoza was Jewish though.

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Can you just stop? It's really a much worse thing than whatever your problem with a wikipedia article is. There's reams of mod commentary about it. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

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From the article it sounds like it all went down differently, but I had originally thought, as someone who's served on standards committees, that Easter as a mobile feast would be an excellent compromise position if there were multiple fixed candidates, for one could then guarantee celebration would coincide with each faction's proposal infinitely often (with only a finite number of non coincidences in between).

(For all f, always eventually Easter sub f?)

Re: First Council of Nicaea

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Thought the article says the council 'settled' christology, it still took hundreds of years before it was popularly resolved: for, at least, the first 500 years of christianity jesus was widely regarded as something more like a demigod. This fairly clearly what Paul thought; with Luke likely believing just in a messianic role. Early christianity is perhaps best seen as greeking of judaism: god the father is zeus, the…

There is no clear 'early Christianity'. By the first time we have any evidence, there are already many different interpretations.

Then you agree with me. My phrasing is for an audience who is unaware that the gospels already disagree on Christology. I was retrospectively talking about the pauline-johnian views which won and what they were like
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