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Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released

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I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.

Why do you consider it a waste of time?

He wants to expose himself to the arena but doesn’t want to spend any time. Unfortunately, experience can’t be poured through a funnel.

Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arguably, macOS is a BSD variant. Much of the userspace UNIX utilities and a lot of the networking stack were forked from FreeBSD. Although it's not the nicest showing, because Apple doesn't pull updates very frequently; a two decade old TCP stack has a lot of issues, Apple added MPTCP and nice PMTUD, but doesn't have SYN cookies, so I wouldn't run a public server with it. Maybe you can find a BSD shell account somew…

macOS is a fair candidate. Second hand Mac can be cheap, esp Intel-based. Hackintosh / VM is also a candidate. OPNsense, PFsense, TrueNAS, Sony Playstation, Nintendo Switch, Juniper, Ruckus/Brocade, ... Give OPNsense (in a VM) a whirl as replacement for OpenWrt. I like it a lot. > I use Linux for work, so I have to go back and forth between ifconfig on my home boxes and production Linux, but ip addr on my dev box. An…

Apple Time Capsule used to run on NetBSD as well.

Unfortunately TrueNAS will move to Linux. At least TrueNAS Scale, based on Linux which going forward will be what they are focusing on.

The land of FreeBSD or BSDs are rapidly shrinking.

Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released

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post #40

I hope the NetBSD devs included the latest version 5.6.1 of "xz" as it has some new interesting features.

:)

From what I understand even that version if xz will not cause issues on the *BSD because it needs a patched sshd linked to a systemd library.

Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released

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post #17

I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.

> I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant.

Really? Wow. I know quite a few. Perhaps your experience isn't as broad as you think.

> How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box…

You can't. Make a BSD box.

> which seems like a waste of time at the moment.

That is an exceptionally foolish comment, which others have pointed out, and you deserve it, I'm afraid.

Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released

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post #44
post #40

I hope the NetBSD devs included the latest version 5.6.1 of "xz" as it has some new interesting features.

:) From what I understand even that version if xz will not cause issues on the *BSD because it needs a patched sshd linked to a systemd library.

I believe you are correct, that sshd does not link to liblzma.so on the BSD systems.

Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released

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post #29
post #17

I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.

Try something that’s unique to one BSD or another. For example, NetBSD supports Lua for kernel scripting[1] and Veriexec[2] for checking the integrity of executables. [1] https://man.netbsd.org/luactl.8 [2] http://netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-veriexec.html

Also rump kernels

Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released

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post #45
post #17

I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.

> I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. Really? Wow. I know quite a few. Perhaps your experience isn't as broad as you think. > How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… You can't. Make a BSD box. > which seems like a waste of time at the moment. That is an exceptionally foolish comment, which others have pointe…

Looking forward to NetBSD 10.0 review on the register :D

Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released

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post #11

I've been interested to try out (Net|Open|Free)BSD for a while. I mostly code and compile C code. What should one expect when going from Linux to either of these BSD systems?

Poor driver support, poor performance, lots of manual editing of config files to accomplish routine tasks, but BSD is "more cohesive" according to most of its proponents.

Enjoy spreading misinformation much?
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