I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
Why do you consider it a waste of time?
NetBSD 10.0 Released
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Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arguably, macOS is a BSD variant. Much of the userspace UNIX utilities and a lot of the networking stack were forked from FreeBSD. Although it's not the nicest showing, because Apple doesn't pull updates very frequently; a two decade old TCP stack has a lot of issues, Apple added MPTCP and nice PMTUD, but doesn't have SYN cookies, so I wouldn't run a public server with it. Maybe you can find a BSD shell account somew…
macOS is a fair candidate. Second hand Mac can be cheap, esp Intel-based. Hackintosh / VM is also a candidate. OPNsense, PFsense, TrueNAS, Sony Playstation, Nintendo Switch, Juniper, Ruckus/Brocade, ... Give OPNsense (in a VM) a whirl as replacement for OpenWrt. I like it a lot. > I use Linux for work, so I have to go back and forth between ifconfig on my home boxes and production Linux, but ip addr on my dev box. An…
Unfortunately TrueNAS will move to Linux. At least TrueNAS Scale, based on Linux which going forward will be what they are focusing on.
The land of FreeBSD or BSDs are rapidly shrinking.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
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#44I hope the NetBSD devs included the latest version 5.6.1 of "xz" as it has some new interesting features.
From what I understand even that version if xz will not cause issues on the *BSD because it needs a patched sshd linked to a systemd library.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#45I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
Really? Wow. I know quite a few. Perhaps your experience isn't as broad as you think.
> How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box…
You can't. Make a BSD box.
> which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
That is an exceptionally foolish comment, which others have pointed out, and you deserve it, I'm afraid.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#46I hope the NetBSD devs included the latest version 5.6.1 of "xz" as it has some new interesting features.
:) From what I understand even that version if xz will not cause issues on the *BSD because it needs a patched sshd linked to a systemd library.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#47I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
Try something that’s unique to one BSD or another. For example, NetBSD supports Lua for kernel scripting[1] and Veriexec[2] for checking the integrity of executables. [1] https://man.netbsd.org/luactl.8 [2] http://netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-veriexec.html
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#48I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
> I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. Really? Wow. I know quite a few. Perhaps your experience isn't as broad as you think. > How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… You can't. Make a BSD box. > which seems like a waste of time at the moment. That is an exceptionally foolish comment, which others have pointe…
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#49I've been interested to try out (Net|Open|Free)BSD for a while. I mostly code and compile C code. What should one expect when going from Linux to either of these BSD systems?
Poor driver support, poor performance, lots of manual editing of config files to accomplish routine tasks, but BSD is "more cohesive" according to most of its proponents.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#50> Apple M1 SoC support, e.g. the M1 Mac Mini. AsahiBSD soon?
Unneeded, as you can already install NetBSD on such a machine today.
> As of April 2022 it is best to use the Asahi installer.