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Novo Nordisk facing pressure as study finds $1k drug can be made for $5

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Re: Novo Nordisk facing pressure as study finds $1k drug can be made for $5

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Post by olliej »

quotemstr wrote: post #3
echelon wrote: post #2

Ozempic is blowing up on TikTok. Celebs and young people are using it left and right. This is wildly popular and there are resellers and apps popping up everywhere to make it easy to get prescriptions. "Ozempic face" has become a meme as people try to guess who is using it. Several of my neighbors are admittedly using it. And they've lost 30, 40+ pounds in a matter of months. Months . This is a diabetes drug. There h…

> This is a diabetes drug. There has to be a biochemical catch here. What if there isn't a catch? Sometimes technology really does just improve the human condition with no serious downsides. Consider refrigeration or sanitary surgical techniques.

Plenty of people have got digestive system paralysis, so that’s a downside. Obviously the big issue is that for people with diabetes this has made the drug unavailable for actual medical problems that don’t have other treatments.

Long term studies are also not super complete - even something known to cause cancer like smoking or asbestos takes decades to show up.

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Post by toomuchtodo »

sandspar wrote: post #6
quotemstr wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a diabetes drug. There has to be a biochemical catch here. What if there isn't a catch? Sometimes technology really does just improve the human condition with no serious downsides. Consider refrigeration or sanitary surgical techniques.

Ozempic's side effects range from frequent diarrhea to pancreatitis and vision loss. Individuals can consider whether the benefits outweigh the costs. But it isn't free. We might try a Fermi problem to estimate how many of those cheerful Ozempic influencers talk about pancreatitis.

Side effects are real but obesity kills too. Importantly, GLP-1 agonists can also inhibit addictive behaviors (alcohol and substance abuse, gambling) due to a brain chemistry mechanism. Additional harm reduction to consider.

https://ourworldindata.org/obesity

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-new-weight-...

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Post by dpacmittal »

quotemstr wrote: post #3
echelon wrote: post #2

Ozempic is blowing up on TikTok. Celebs and young people are using it left and right. This is wildly popular and there are resellers and apps popping up everywhere to make it easy to get prescriptions. "Ozempic face" has become a meme as people try to guess who is using it. Several of my neighbors are admittedly using it. And they've lost 30, 40+ pounds in a matter of months. Months . This is a diabetes drug. There h…

> This is a diabetes drug. There has to be a biochemical catch here. What if there isn't a catch? Sometimes technology really does just improve the human condition with no serious downsides. Consider refrigeration or sanitary surgical techniques.

Refrigerants contribute to global warming, no?

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Post by QuesnayJr »

quotemstr wrote: post #3
echelon wrote: post #2

Ozempic is blowing up on TikTok. Celebs and young people are using it left and right. This is wildly popular and there are resellers and apps popping up everywhere to make it easy to get prescriptions. "Ozempic face" has become a meme as people try to guess who is using it. Several of my neighbors are admittedly using it. And they've lost 30, 40+ pounds in a matter of months. Months . This is a diabetes drug. There h…

> This is a diabetes drug. There has to be a biochemical catch here. What if there isn't a catch? Sometimes technology really does just improve the human condition with no serious downsides. Consider refrigeration or sanitary surgical techniques.

I was wondering this. How often does it turn out that a drug has no serious downsides? I guess penicillin was, if you're not allergic. (There is microbes evolving antibiotic resistance, but that's probably not a concern for ozempic.)

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Post by TylerE »

DarkmSparks wrote: post #15

why just novo nordisk? https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/at-850-000-drug-to-treat-bli... can be made for .1c heck, a top of the line AMD server chip costing $10,000 only contains a few milligrams of plastic copper gold and sand.

"There are currently about 1,000 cases of people who suffer from hereditary degeneration of the retina, and 10 to 20 new cases are expected to be added each year."

I mean, let's be realistic here.

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Post by kobalsky »

Mencius- wrote: post #10
echelon wrote: post #2

Ozempic is blowing up on TikTok. Celebs and young people are using it left and right. This is wildly popular and there are resellers and apps popping up everywhere to make it easy to get prescriptions. "Ozempic face" has become a meme as people try to guess who is using it. Several of my neighbors are admittedly using it. And they've lost 30, 40+ pounds in a matter of months. Months . This is a diabetes drug. There h…

The Law of Equivalent Exchange can be dodged, delayed, and ignored for only so long. There may not be a biochemical catch, but we will certainly pay in some other way. Perhaps spiritual, mental, etc.

imagine if you were saying this about vaccines or antibiotics.

this drug has side effects on some people but it’s may make obesity a thing of the past. especially if generics could be made so cheaply

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