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Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Unfortunately, Romanian bears are brown bears (Ursus arctos), not black (Ursus americanus). They are not easily scared by people and encounters with them can be very dangerous.

I don't think there's a much difference in behavior between the species, probably Romania just has more bears living close to humans, which makes them less afraid and conflicts more likely. For the record, my home country (Finland) has about 2000 brown bears, and they have killed only a single person during past 100 years. Most of the time they try their best to avoid humans, and the majority of people living in the…

Eurasian brown bears and North American brown bears are ostensibly the same species of bear, but you'd never guess it from the attack statistics. Eurasian brown bears are considerably less likely to attack than their North American counterparts. I think the Eurasian brown bears have been subjected to more evolutionary pressure to be more docile (from people hunting down the aggressive ones more comprehensively and probably for longer than in America.)

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I haven't been to Yellowstone so maybe this doesn't make sense, but is there a reason they couldn't implement the same system as Zion? During most of the year the main road in Zion is closed to private cars, and everyone uses the (very good) shuttle system, or bikes or walks.

Zions shuttle system frankly blows. I went last week and had to wait 2 hours in line for it. Meanwhile you go to the kobol canyon area and I did not see a single person all day.

Must vary widely, because I went in August and there was 0 line at all. A lot of places are on Spring Break in the US right now, so that may contribute to your experience.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Ahh, bollocks (sort of)! Romania...one of the last cool places on earth that isn't full of idiots. Oh well, gotta go find somewhere else again. *packs of dogs can be a pain....especially whilst cycling.

I cycled along the Danube (all of it) in 2013.

The packs of wild dogs were not a problem at all. The individual dogs "defending" their property from cyclists were a pain. I had a water bottle and a stick to get rid of the less and the more persistent ones respectively...

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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There is bison in Chernobyl: https://www.rferl.org/a/bison-chernobyl/28357813.html

There is almost every EurAsian animal in Chernobyl. Once humans fucked off, animals took over.

This happened very quickly during the early panny-D as well

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Please do this in France too. So much land, but agriculture everywhere.

There’s a moment in the movie R.M.N. where a young Frenchman is in town to “count the bears”. During a town hall, he tries to explain that he’s there to help identify how many bears there are and help protect them. One local throws a jab back at him: “You kill all the bears in your country and reap the benefits of developing [your land/economy], and then come to ours and tell us to protect nature.” Fantastic movie, h…

Totally. Brazil is having great economic benefits from cutting down its rain-forests and farming cattle. Just like Europeans and Americans did.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Of particular note is that there are a ton of bears in Romania, much more than in other European countries, with something like 60% of all European brown bears. [0] Glad to see that someone is attempting to preserve this. 0. https://www.mossy.earth/rewilding-knowledge/romanias-brown-b...

There are more bears than the land can sustain. Go to any tourist (or non tourist) spot in the mountains and they'll come down and steal from your garbage in town . Look up Brasov. It's a reasonably large touristic town and it regularly gets bears at the periphery.

A bear stealing human food in no way shape or form suggests that there's not enough food for them in the wild. Stealing human food is just generally easier and tastier.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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I’ve read about them after getting introduced to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Żubrówka

There is also the beer https://zubr.cz/cs

And probably unrelated polish beer zubr.pl

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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>Several years ago, 80 bison were reintroduced two centuries after their disappearance from these territories... I had no idea there were bison in Europe. The provided hyperlink leads to an article about bison being reintroduced in Mexico. Here is an appropriate article about bison being rewilded in the Southern Carpathians: https://rewildingeurope.com/blog/free-roaming-bison-populati... .

Romanian postage stamp from 2001: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Romania_...

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/23/first-impressi...

Also check out Herzog's 2010 documentary "Cave of Forgotten Dreams"

The nonstop gibberish about "AI" bores me to tears. These paintings suggest a different view of what it means to become "conscious".

http://www.tcnj.edu/~library/e-reserve/shestakow/SHESHAAH105...

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Exactly, shitty American tourists are staying within America or going to Mexico/nearby Latam countries.

Right, and this is why I believe American tourists (in general) have a much worse reputation in Latin America than in Europe.

I think the Americans with bad reputations tend to stick to tropical climates and beaches. The type of place where tourists are probably just sunning themselves or getting drunk.

Interestingly enough, I recently went on a short trip to Cozumel, MX. It wasn't my choice, I was just going to see some family who had planned their vacation there. I've been to more than 20 countries and boy oh boy was Cozumel my least favorite place abroad. Felt like the whole island was tailor-made to rip off or outright scam tourists arriving via cruise ships.

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