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Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by azulster »

jesprenj wrote: post #28

> European Yellowstone That makes it sound like national parks were invented in the USA and there are no national parks in Europe ... So when a new store opens outside of the US it's called European Wallmart?

yellowstone is literally called the first national park in the world so...yes?

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by lowkey_ »

dakna wrote: post #18
tejohnso wrote: post #8

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There is already a lot of illegal logging in Romania. Timber is a very valuable resource, and capitalism doesn't care if something is legal or not. As long as there are no revenue streams with less risk available, everyone local will have an incentive to exploit this resource. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_mafia

+1 to this, the article even states how there's illegal logging operations in the area that are fighting against this preservation.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by HDThoreaun »

burkaman wrote: post #20
jderick wrote: post #3

Maybe they can create one without all the traffic.

I haven't been to Yellowstone so maybe this doesn't make sense, but is there a reason they couldn't implement the same system as Zion? During most of the year the main road in Zion is closed to private cars, and everyone uses the (very good) shuttle system, or bikes or walks.

Zions shuttle system frankly blows. I went last week and had to wait 2 hours in line for it. Meanwhile you go to the kobol canyon area and I did not see a single person all day.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by jffry »

jesprenj wrote: post #28

> European Yellowstone That makes it sound like national parks were invented in the USA and there are no national parks in Europe ... So when a new store opens outside of the US it's called European Wallmart?

It's a direct quote from somebody who donated to the project, found in the first paragraph of the article:

> The aim is to create “the European Yellowstone,” as the largest donor of the initiative described it

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by keiferski »

Of particular note is that there are a ton of bears in Romania, much more than in other European countries, with something like 60% of all European brown bears. [0] Glad to see that someone is attempting to preserve this.

0. https://www.mossy.earth/rewilding-knowledge/romanias-brown-b...

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by colechristensen »

jesprenj wrote: post #28

> European Yellowstone That makes it sound like national parks were invented in the USA and there are no national parks in Europe ... So when a new store opens outside of the US it's called European Wallmart?

National parks were invented by the USA and Yellowstone was the first one in 1872. It is also very large.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

ethbr1 wrote: post #33
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg to differ

What are the pros and cons?

Pro: Amazing nature, you can do whatever you want, entrepreneurial spirit, great Gbit (!!!) WiFi everywhere, lovely people

Con: Bad streets, derelict villages, corrupt politics, low trust

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by bombcar »

justrealist wrote: post #10
bombcar wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just go to any other part of the park; though the other parts are not as "interesting". Visit the Zone of Death! Almost completely empty! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Death_(Yellowstone)

I buy this for Yosemite but let's be real, if I'm going to Yellowstone I'm taking my toddlers to see the geysers, not on a 20 mile in-and-out hike up a mountain.

Of course - though there are other geysers available (most in Yellowstone, of course): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_geysers

Popular things are popular for reasons, after all.

The best I've found is visit at inconvenient times; early or late in the season, or early in the day.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by jkaptur »

jesprenj wrote: post #28

> European Yellowstone That makes it sound like national parks were invented in the USA and there are no national parks in Europe ... So when a new store opens outside of the US it's called European Wallmart?

The article says it's the term used by the largest donor to the project.
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