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Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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I doubt they ever prosecute anyone for counterfeiting a stamp, but if the law only forbid counterfeiting 100 stamps a counterfeiter would do 99 at a time.

> if the law only forbid counterfeiting 100 stamps a counterfeiter would do 99 at a time. And by the second batch they'd have counterfeited 198, so I fail to see the problem...

That's how they nab you for structuring.

Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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It's worse than that. They introduced new stamps with barcodes and let you trade in your old lawfully obtained postage for the new barcoded stuff. They are marking some of their own lawfully obtained stamps as counterfeit and by dint of doing so stealing from their citizenry. It's roughly analogous to having bought speed guns from an incompetent vendor which sometimes read 200 kph no matter what the speed and insisti…

> They are marking some of their own lawfully obtained stamps as counterfeit and by dint of doing so stealing from their citizenry This is called "fraud" and in any properly-run country people would be doing long prison sentences for it. Sadly, the UK is not a properly-run country.

What, you don’t think the postal court run by the Post Office will rule against the Post Office? Come on, there’s only a small chance of being sent to Rwanda in a crate if you file a case against them, hardly worth worrying about.

Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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Royal Mail needs to be slapped with a massive Freedom of Information request. We need to see how many fines have been paid. We had one of these a year and a half ago, similar story. Seemed BS back then, so this could be a big problem.

Royal Mail, as a private (well… public) company, is not subject to FOIA requests.

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Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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I don’t know whether I should post this as it may be an ongoing case, but not so long ago I sent off my old stamps to the official “swap out” service to have them replaced by the new barcoded ones. A few days later, I did indeed receive equivalent new stamps back — in an envelope that had clearly been tampered with, being roughly cut open all down one side and having the paperwork accompanying the stamps obviously be…

well ... it's the royal mail which happens to be identical to the royal mail from the post office scandal. that's about the reassurance you got to expect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal

Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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I'm curious if this started/accelerated when they switched to only accepting super special stamps that only their super special machine can determine whether they're genuine and unused? That would sure be a coincidence.

The fee was increased recently too I believe

This definitely needs investigating properly and determining if we have another Post Office-like scandal on our hands.

Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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More money goes to corrupt politicians than to the royals. It's less than 100M per year with 67M people. I don't like supporting the royals but it's a small portion of taxes.

That equation misses the value of their assets and the revenue they make for themselves.

Re: Why are so many people being hit with £5 fines for 'counterfeit' stamps?

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The barcode in the article decodes to "JGB S11221017031011395940006622112101 BC046285E760466C01" if anyone fancies having a crack at making a stamp keygen.

I didn't actually realize one could fit so much into such a small barcode. I do wonder if this now means it is in theory possible to track items sent by letter post.

We forget just how automated sorting of mail now is. Only probable manual part is by the person doing delivery, and that is just for their own convenience. Everything else is automated, with few hard to read addresses going through manual sorting. Where they are tracked too.
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