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The race to replace Redis

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Re: The race to replace Redis

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Post by arp242 »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #6
mooreds wrote: post #2

I'd be more interested in the race to build a business model that works with open source and venture funding, myself. A grand unified theory of software goods funding, if you will.

This is indeed interesting. The historically 'good' open source companies like Sun got bought but the ones that weren't like Oracle. The selling support model alone does not seem evolutionarily fit for the market. Now we have these VC-backed 'open source' companies that have a playbook wherein they appear open source at first. But when you dig deeper, you find that the heart of the thing is a closed binary. The inves…

Sun was mainly a hardware business; you bought their workstations and servers. And oh, they also had this unix-y thing that came with that. Later software did become a bit more important with Java and MySQL and all of that, but it was still primarily hardware company.

I think it's pointless to even compare it to the Redis company; just about everything is different.

Re: The race to replace Redis

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Post by ceejayoz »

candiddevmike wrote: post #9
mooreds wrote: post #2

I'd be more interested in the race to build a business model that works with open source and venture funding, myself. A grand unified theory of software goods funding, if you will.

I think something like https://bigtimelicense.com/ is a good start.

Their definition of "fair, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory terms" seems... incredibly vague, and with a big chicken-and-egg problem for the first license.

> If the licensor advertises license terms and a pricing structure for generally available commercial licenses, the licensor proposes license terms and a price as advertised, and a customer not affiliated with the licensor has bought a commercial license for the software on substantially equivalent terms in the past year, the proposal is fair, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory.

Re: The race to replace Redis

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Post by ralusek »

Am I insane or can't a company just fork it from before the license change? I mean, what even needs to change in it? I assume 95% of people were just using it for the features it's had since the beginning anyway.

Re: The race to replace Redis

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Post by hipadev23 »

esafak wrote: post #8

There's also DragonflyDB

Yeah but if you’re going to the trouble of switching, probably pick something that actually outperforms Redis/Redis Cluster. Which basically leaves you with Garnet.

Redict is a pointless endeavor. Just stick with Redis 7.2 before the licensing change. Maybe change the binary name if it makes folks feel better.

Re: The race to replace Redis

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Post by kemitchell »

mooreds wrote: post #2

I'd be more interested in the race to build a business model that works with open source and venture funding, myself. A grand unified theory of software goods funding, if you will.

I wonder if software really deserves its own economics.

If you haven't read Hal Varian's Information Rules, I highly recommend it. Check the publication date, then read it anyway, then reflect on the publication date when you're done. I found it very worthwhile.

Re: The race to replace Redis

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Post by kemitchell »

ceejayoz wrote: post #12
candiddevmike wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think something like https://bigtimelicense.com/ is a good start.

Their definition of "fair, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory terms" seems... incredibly vague, and with a big chicken-and-egg problem for the first license. > If the licensor advertises license terms and a pricing structure for generally available commercial licenses, the licensor proposes license terms and a price as advertised, and a customer not affiliated with the licensor has bought a commercial license for the…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discriminat...

Re: The race to replace Redis

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Post by tredre3 »

ralusek wrote: post #14

Am I insane or can't a company just fork it from before the license change? I mean, what even needs to change in it? I assume 95% of people were just using it for the features it's had since the beginning anyway.

> Am I insane or can't a company just fork it from before the license change?

The article mentions half a dozen such forks. So not insane, maybe just a bit lazy ;).

Re: The race to replace Redis

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Post by SteveNuts »

crabmusket wrote: post #4
mooreds wrote: post #2

I'd be more interested in the race to build a business model that works with open source and venture funding, myself. A grand unified theory of software goods funding, if you will.

Why specifically venture funding?

Because of the expected revenue and growth that comes with it.

Re: The race to replace Redis

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ralusek wrote: post #14

Am I insane or can't a company just fork it from before the license change? I mean, what even needs to change in it? I assume 95% of people were just using it for the features it's had since the beginning anyway.

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