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I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
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Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#42Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#43(disclaimer: I work for Discourse) Discourse has an AI plugin that admins can run on their community to generate their own sentiment analysis (among other things), though it's not quite as thorough as this write up! https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-plugin/259214 We're always interested to see how public data can be used like this. It's something that can be a lot more difficult on closed platforms.
> helps you keep tabs on your community by analyzing posts and providing sentiment and emotional scores to give you an overall sense of your community for any period of time [...] > Toxicity can scan both new posts and chat messages and classify them on a toxicity score across a variety of labels Is that within the defined data processing purposes of all Discourse setups? Does the tool warn admins they might need to…
I don't think there's anything left for you to consent once you decide to post on a public forum. If I can read your post and guess your mental state so can any other bot.
Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#44(disclaimer: I work for Discourse) Discourse has an AI plugin that admins can run on their community to generate their own sentiment analysis (among other things), though it's not quite as thorough as this write up! https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-plugin/259214 We're always interested to see how public data can be used like this. It's something that can be a lot more difficult on closed platforms.
> helps you keep tabs on your community by analyzing posts and providing sentiment and emotional scores to give you an overall sense of your community for any period of time [...] > Toxicity can scan both new posts and chat messages and classify them on a toxicity score across a variety of labels Is that within the defined data processing purposes of all Discourse setups? Does the tool warn admins they might need to…
Discourse is not a centralized platform, so it's up to individual sites to ensure they're compliant with data and privacy regulations.
Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#45(disclaimer: I work for Discourse) Discourse has an AI plugin that admins can run on their community to generate their own sentiment analysis (among other things), though it's not quite as thorough as this write up! https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-plugin/259214 We're always interested to see how public data can be used like this. It's something that can be a lot more difficult on closed platforms.
> helps you keep tabs on your community by analyzing posts and providing sentiment and emotional scores to give you an overall sense of your community for any period of time [...] > Toxicity can scan both new posts and chat messages and classify them on a toxicity score across a variety of labels Is that within the defined data processing purposes of all Discourse setups? Does the tool warn admins they might need to…
> Is that within the defined data processing purposes of all Discourse setups?
It's an optional plugin that can be enabled / disabled by the site admin. Those modules are all disabled by default, and each need to be enabled by the site owner.
> Edit: and apparently it also tries to flag NSFW chat messages, does Discourse have PM chats where this would flag private messages for admins to read or is it only public chats that this bot runs on?
Discourse PMs can be read by admins, see the definition here: https://meta.discourse.org/t/guidance-and-best-practices-on-...
Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#46That's super cool, thanks for sharing! I will share this as an easy to follow example of what we can with AI. > Allowing a Q&A interface using these embeddings over the post contents could speed up research over the community posts (if you know the right questions to ask :P). Let's view some posts similar to this one complaining about function calling That's indeed a great thing to surface, and that's exactly how the…
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Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
But make sure to call it ClosedData or something so we know it’s not open source (sorry, I think openai and sam are gross)
Maybe I don’t understand this sentiment, but are people really that hung up on the name? I see this sort of thing posted a lot (i.e., “it should be ClosedAI instead of OpenAI, lol”) What if it just means “Open for Business” instead of “Open Access for All”? Or maybe they should just make it an acronym? I’m sorry for the confusion on my part, but there’s just been a lot of words dedicated toward expressing frustration…
"What if it just means" -- I mean, we don't have to ask "what if". We can look at the original press release:
https://openai.com/blog/introducing-openai
« We’re hoping to grow OpenAI into such an institution. As a non-profit, our aim is to build value for everyone rather than shareholders. Researchers will be strongly encouraged to publish their work, whether as papers, blog posts, or code, and our patents (if any) will be shared with the world. We’ll freely collaborate with others across many institutions and expect to work with companies to research and deploy new technologies. »
They never give an explicit explanation for their name, but it's pretty obvious.
Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
> helps you keep tabs on your community by analyzing posts and providing sentiment and emotional scores to give you an overall sense of your community for any period of time [...] > Toxicity can scan both new posts and chat messages and classify them on a toxicity score across a variety of labels Is that within the defined data processing purposes of all Discourse setups? Does the tool warn admins they might need to…
Discourse is not a centralized platform, so it's up to individual sites to ensure they're compliant with data and privacy regulations.
I mention that in the first nonquote sentence
Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> helps you keep tabs on your community by analyzing posts and providing sentiment and emotional scores to give you an overall sense of your community for any period of time [...] > Toxicity can scan both new posts and chat messages and classify them on a toxicity score across a variety of labels Is that within the defined data processing purposes of all Discourse setups? Does the tool warn admins they might need to…
I don't think there's anything left for you to consent once you decide to post on a public forum. If I can read your post and guess your mental state so can any other bot.
If you park your car on the side of the road, that also doesn't allow anyone to do with it what they please
If you write an article and post it on your blog, people can't just come along and take the text verbatim
If you license your blog as public domain, then someone takes the content and does something objectionable with it, you can (in many countries) still make use of moral rights if you'd wish to correct the situation
If I post something publicly on a forum, I'm well aware I may have agreed or consented (depending on the forum) to terms that allow this type of processing, but that is not the default. There exist restrictions, both legally and morally (some legal ones are even called moral rights and are inalienable). Hence my question how this plugin handles extending the allowed data processing to cover taking the content and making automated decisions and claims that may or may not be accurate. I would not be comfortable with that being an automated behind-the-scenes process flagging my posts as good or bad towards the moderators, since they likely won't care to read back hundreds of comments and see whether the computer did a good job
Re: I scraped all of OpenAI's Community Forum
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> helps you keep tabs on your community by analyzing posts and providing sentiment and emotional scores to give you an overall sense of your community for any period of time [...] > Toxicity can scan both new posts and chat messages and classify them on a toxicity score across a variety of labels Is that within the defined data processing purposes of all Discourse setups? Does the tool warn admins they might need to…
> Is that within the defined data processing purposes of all Discourse setups? It's an optional plugin that can be enabled / disabled by the site admin. Those modules are all disabled by default, and each need to be enabled by the site owner. > Edit: and apparently it also tries to flag NSFW chat messages, does Discourse have PM chats where this would flag private messages for admins to read or is it only public chat…
Of course an admin can always open up the database and read your forum PMs, that's not surprising. The very first line in the link you provided, however, is what I was worried about:
> Moderators can read PMs that have an active flag.
This system is now setting nsfw flags in an automated fashion, specifically seeking out content that the persons involved wouldn't want others to see. Clearly a forum is the wrong place for that content, but people don't always make good decisions (especially kids; I was a kid on forums too and would be very surprised if nothing ever transpired there). The receiving person can already flag anything they deem inappropriate. A system making automated decisions about messages that were intended to be private creates problems and it is not clear to me who this serves