Lol. "My useful life is over," he says. As if there was anything useful about setting up a fraudulent exchange to steal billions of dollars so he could go play animal house with Caroline in his penthouse.
Regardless of fraud, he donated a lot of money, some to noble causes. This is useful, even of it was not his money.
Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
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Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#822I love harsh American justice. In some countries you can stalk, kidnap, rape, kill, and then dismember a child and get less of a sentence than SBF. I have seen terrorists conduct attacks where mass casualties and death occur, they get sentenced to five years, get "rehabilitated" and then go free and do it all again. I have heard people drone on about American prison sentences being overboard but after seeing hundreds…
Works pretty well out here in Australia, or much of Eastern Europe.
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
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Stole 1% from the pension fund for Ontario's teachers. Stole unknown amounts of peoples retirement. Ruined many peoples lives. How is 50 years too long? The literal largest fraud case in history doesn't even have a life sentence... We are sending a clear message, grift and steal your way to the top and then get out just in time to retire with all your stolen goods. You know when he gets out he is gonna go unlock a de…
Btw is that money irretrievably gone? Are those people getting their money back based on the recovered price of crypto? Or did those assets get liquidated long ago into actualized losses?
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#824It's funny. I lost tens of thousands of dollars thanks to this individual, yet his sentence brings me no joy or arouses any emotion at all. I'm utterly indifferent to his fate for some reason and I don't know why. Yet if he had been a mugger who stole a much smaller amount of money from me on the street, I think I would've been far more vengeful. Should I feel vindictive? Or is it healthy to forget about it and move…
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#825An uncle once commented about a cousin of ours that he demonstrated how it's possible to screw things up so badly that you can't possibly recover. I think that's true for Sam. I hope it's not true for the people in his orbit; I hope they can get out from under this and try to find meaning, ideally from repairing the harm they've done. As Rick Heicklen writes, "We are not ever going to be Sam. But we could be Caroline…
I don't think Caroline is a bad person. She was brilliant smart and focused on academics etc. She got pulled into this mess during the crypto mania phase.
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
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I think humans also feel no anger towards deadly diseases. Maybe it is more comparable to that. However, I do know that people can feel very ashamed from scams like phishing attacks and caller scams.
There no intent to personally harm with a disease/virus — it's just what they do and one of the players in the game of life. Versus someone calling you specifically to cause harm, especially when they can comprehend the harm they are intending to inflict, in your example.
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Tulum seems so greasy. I want to see it anyway.
Tulum is fine but I would not ever go again if my friend didn't live there. It's just the intersection of nacros, tourism, cancun spillover, hella overpriced beach clubs. Probably my least favorite place I've been in Mexico, tbh.
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
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I didn't lose a penny and I'm giddy about it. Justice has been done.
> I didn't lose a penny and I'm giddy about it. Justice has been done. How can you be giddy about a human being locked in a cage for 25 years? Would you be giddy if he were being flogged, or hanged? As long as there has been recording, flogging and hangings were common punishments and usually defended as "justice has been done." Incarceration really isn't far from medieval punishments. I'm by no means suggesting that…
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#829An uncle once commented about a cousin of ours that he demonstrated how it's possible to screw things up so badly that you can't possibly recover. I think that's true for Sam. I hope it's not true for the people in his orbit; I hope they can get out from under this and try to find meaning, ideally from repairing the harm they've done. As Rick Heicklen writes, "We are not ever going to be Sam. But we could be Caroline…
He's cheeky and a chancer. He is a victim of your uncles idiom. But that's not the crime, the crime is getting there.
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#830Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't lose a penny and I'm giddy about it. Justice has been done.
> I didn't lose a penny and I'm giddy about it. Justice has been done. How can you be giddy about a human being locked in a cage for 25 years? Would you be giddy if he were being flogged, or hanged? As long as there has been recording, flogging and hangings were common punishments and usually defended as "justice has been done." Incarceration really isn't far from medieval punishments. I'm by no means suggesting that…