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NotepadNext – a cross-platform reimplementation of Notepad++

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Re: NotepadNext – a cross-platform reimplementation of Notepad++

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Post by arsome »

j1elo wrote: post #68
emestifs wrote: post #3

Missed opportunity to write it in a Memory-Safe, White House approved language and call it Rustpad or something...I joke of course. After reading the title I was 99% sure it would've been an Electron app, nice to see it's actually native. Good work.

The GUI is made with Qt, for which the preferred programming language is C++. So that could be one reason already. There are a lot of bindings listed for Rust in the Qt docs [1] though, but they will always be a subpar experience compared to the first-class support for C++ in Qt. [1]: https://wiki.qt.io/Language_Bindings

Yeah and the main editing component is Scintilla, also C++.

Re: NotepadNext – a cross-platform reimplementation of Notepad++

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Post by jwells89 »

gamepsys wrote: post #23
user3939382 wrote: post #9

Just to provide a diversity of opinion: I've heard basically nothing but positive feedback about Notepad++ over the years. However, I tried it out for about 10 seconds before closing it and never looked back. The, what I call "millions of tiny buttons" interface is ugly and distracting. I've never liked IDEs or other apps with this UI style. I use a JetBrains IDE now that has just as many features but the UI is not c…

I greatly miss those tool bars. I think it's ironic that modern UI strives to be less cluttered than ever before while computer monitors are larger than ever before. * They encourage curiosity about previously undiscovered functionality. It improves feature discoverability. * It's way easier to find the correct tool bar icon than trying to hunt for a feature inside the menus. * If some toolbars are highlighted or dis…

I think an argument can be made for toolbars if they’re customizable with no holes barred on customizability (looking at you, Firefox, with your non-optional hamburger menu) and can be hidden entirely, should the user choose to do so. For me, toolbars as they were commonly implemented in Cocoa apps for the first half of OS X’s history are the model example here, which offer all the above.

It’s when they’re not fully customizable and aren’t optional when they grate on me.

Re: NotepadNext – a cross-platform reimplementation of Notepad++

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Post by soupbowl »

user3939382 wrote: post #9

Just to provide a diversity of opinion: I've heard basically nothing but positive feedback about Notepad++ over the years. However, I tried it out for about 10 seconds before closing it and never looked back. The, what I call "millions of tiny buttons" interface is ugly and distracting. I've never liked IDEs or other apps with this UI style. I use a JetBrains IDE now that has just as many features but the UI is not c…

Takes one second to disable all that. I've used notepad++ forever and not once have I used those buttons, indeed they are useless. Your opinion is valid but I never understand using a tool with options and acting like the defaults are the only option.

Re: NotepadNext – a cross-platform reimplementation of Notepad++

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Post by porphyra »

j1elo wrote: post #79
porphyra wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tiny buttons toolbars were the norm for decades in, say, Windows Explorer and Microsoft Word, before Microsoft transitioned to the "Ribbon" style in 2007. Personally I think that people who enjoy those buttons do so for nostalgia reasons, but they are not the worst to use once you remember where each tool is and what each tool's icon looks like.

> Tiny buttons toolbars were the norm for decades (...) before Microsoft transitioned to the "Ribbon" style in 2007. The Ribbon still feels to me like that "new thing" Microsoft did since some version of Office... and you're telling me it was 2007?!! Oh my... A bit before that time I already moved to Open/LibreOffice, and never really used any Windows past 7, so I've missed a whole UI paradigm transition that now mak…

There's now a whole generation of 20 year old programmers who have never used the toolbars of the 1990s and early 2000s.

Re: NotepadNext – a cross-platform reimplementation of Notepad++

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Post by israrkhan »

I am primarily a nevim users. Occasionally I use vs code and dislike it for its slowness. Recently discovered `Zed`[1] on Mac. it is quite fast and really good GUI editor (vs code replacement in some ways).

I think NotePadNext will still remain primarily a choice for windows users.

[1] https://zed.dev/

Re: NotepadNext – a cross-platform reimplementation of Notepad++

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Post by jwells89 »

darby_eight wrote: post #73
gamepsys wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I greatly miss those tool bars. I think it's ironic that modern UI strives to be less cluttered than ever before while computer monitors are larger than ever before. * They encourage curiosity about previously undiscovered functionality. It improves feature discoverability. * It's way easier to find the correct tool bar icon than trying to hunt for a feature inside the menus. * If some toolbars are highlighted or dis…

> It's way easier to find the correct tool bar icon than trying to hunt for a feature inside the menus. What? I am just completely confused by this—menu items are labeled in clear textual language, sorted roughly by functionality. icons greatly depend on cultural context. Looking at a screenshot of notepad++ I could would understand maybe a third of the icons and could guess at another third at best. That said, it's…

I find it depends on how many things are in the toolbar, and if the icons are actually icons or monochromatic glyphs.

A toolbar that’s populated only with the most frequently used functions and employs full color, uniquely shaped icons can be visually grokked in an instant, whereas a densely packed toolbar full of glyphs is inscrutable at a glance.

Re: NotepadNext – a cross-platform reimplementation of Notepad++

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Post by SlackingOff123 »

CraigJPerry wrote: post #29
user3939382 wrote: post #9

Just to provide a diversity of opinion: I've heard basically nothing but positive feedback about Notepad++ over the years. However, I tried it out for about 10 seconds before closing it and never looked back. The, what I call "millions of tiny buttons" interface is ugly and distracting. I've never liked IDEs or other apps with this UI style. I use a JetBrains IDE now that has just as many features but the UI is not c…

The new Jetbrains ui is hard to like. It’s form over function. The old ui (thankfully still available). Having to hover over a hamburger button just to cause it to draw the menu bar options then slide the mouse across to what you want is annoying. The new commit window alt+0 is better, the old modal always felt tacked on when everything else is a docked panel.

FYI, it's possible to make the menu bar always visible in settings.
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