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Post by danpalmer »

Havoc wrote: post #174
danpalmer wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they also need to stop meeting legal obligations such as age verification for distributing/viewing sexually explicit material?

Legal obligations morality police and you know it

This is my point. Are Google being "morality police" here, or are they just meeting some possible legal requirements (IANAL)?

All things being equal, a company would most likely rather do nothing, as that's the cheapest option. The fact they aren't suggests a good motivating reason, and potential legal obligations trump personal moral opinions, which are hard to pin down anyway in a large multinational company.

Re: Google suspends romance author's account for writing sexually explicit content

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Post by throwaway220033 »

Hizonner wrote: post #180
throwaway220033 wrote: post #98

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By "the non-woke parts of the world", you mean the parts with less advanced technology, less per-capita economic production by every measure, less personal security, less general education of the populace, and just generally less of every possible benefit of having "a civilization". And by "always" you mean times with less of all those things. You're not very good at this...

Don’t you sound so narcissistic?

Was Roman Empire obsessed with sexuality when it was its peak?

Was the western empire today obsessed with sexuality or more conservative when it was the superpower in the world?

Western people project their trauma with Catholicism to all cultures and traditions for some reason and they think they owe their development to abandoning norms and just having public orgies in SF streets.

When people think of west these days they think about pee and drug smelling dirty streets and collective madness of making all kinds of weird sexual acts public.

The superiority of West of now is pure narcissism. High skilled people now prefer working remotely if they have to work for a western company, instead of moving there permanently.

Visit China to see how civilization is built in 20 years.

Re: Google suspends romance author's account for writing sexually explicit content

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Post by Zambyte »

rasengan wrote: post #96

If you're not self hosting in 2024, you're doing it wrong. With our internet connections being so fast and plethora of server daemons out there, there's really no excuse.

An unfortunately reasonable excuse is the ever-increasing complexity of the systems most people access. Trying to host something on my pocketable computer with cellular access ranges from nightmarish to impossible, for no good reason. And that's even on the Linux-based option (Android).

Re: Google suspends romance author's account for writing sexually explicit content

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Post by fmajid »

kyrra wrote: post #44

The currently linked site is just a forum post, which links to Instagram, which is a screenshot of a discord chat. Instagram has the screenshots at least: https://www.instagram.com/sloan_spencer_author/p/C48JN_TrvxO... It does look like the author just lost access to docs they shared with others, not their entire account. Author is currently appealing. We have seen this kind of thing in the past. Drive has to be care…

The problem is the blast radius. Google can and will delete your Android account for an unrelated issue, e.g. a billing dispute. Apple is just as bad.

Re: Google suspends romance author's account for writing sexually explicit content

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Post by rifty »

vsnf wrote: post #49

Something related I’ve been wondering about is the change in language catalyzed by social media companies and their morality / fear of advertisers. You see it especially in TikTok videos. When people aren’t straight up censoring themselves with bleeps, dead audio, or cuts, they use euphemisms instead: kill -> unalive, rape -> grape, sex -> seggs. Even more concerning is that what is considered in need of censoring is…

Popular words are easy sacrificial signals so that people can provide an example of social intent by avoidance if questioned.

It’s annoying right now that we have a doubled dictionary to signal intention, but it is also concerning looking forward… Because at some point the social standard could expect technology to target the concept instead of the word to prove a good faith attempt to avoid interaction with non neutral ideas.

Re: Google suspends romance author's account for writing sexually explicit content

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Post by caskstrength »

geraldhh wrote: post #171
caskstrength wrote: post #140

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Care to explain what exactly "may be illegal" in this case?

the writing please read the post before asking questions in bad faith

Bad faith? Erotic writing "may be illegal" in the US? o_O

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Post by aaomidi »

seanw444 wrote: post #68
aaomidi wrote: post #53

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I’ve always argued that we need regulation that prevents large companies from just yeeting your data. At most they should be able to put it in RO mode to let you take it out.

Why bandaid fix it at the government level, when you can solve it right now by yourself: stop creating single points of failure. Store backups in multiple locations.

Because actually some problems need a regulation based solution.

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Post by Al0neStar »

mjburgess wrote: post #71
vouaobrasil wrote: post #28

The other day, I saw a movie scene on YouTube where a guy is knife-fighting with another guy. There is a stab in the throat at the end, where all the life drains from his face. Blood is gushing and we see a human being kill another human being. I really don't understand why Google (and Western society) condones this sort of content while having a near zero-tolerance policy towards sex and love. But I figured it out t…

Watching violent films doesn't make you violent. Watching sexual content does (occasionally) make you want to have sex. There really isnt anything more to it than that. People who want to censor sexual content are accurately assessing its disposition to arouse audiences; and accurately assessing violent film's disposition to induce catharsis.

Why do they have a problem with people being aroused?

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Post by londons_explore »

Sayrus wrote: post #67
londons_explore wrote: post #29

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I don't think Google does per-service suspensions, except for Google pay/adwords/adsense/YouTube.

I'm not sure if the author is in Europe but DMA lead to Google offering services separately[1]. The services are: Search, YouTube, Ad services, Google Play, Chrome, Google Shopping, Google Maps. I think Workspace (Mail, Docs, Drive, ...) are still a single service. If I remember correctly DMA or another recent law targeting gatekeepers also requires suspension to be followed with a way to appeal, proper justification…

I think thats data sharing, not the enabling/disabling of services.
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