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I am having a tough time... I am a systems administrator who also has experience teaching and coding, but I am looking at systems admins / engineering positions only. I consider myself highly experienced in Linux / Unix. A few years back, I could just word of mouth say I was looking and have offers. Now, nothing. Lots of ghosting after the 2nd or 3rd interview. Very few positions for Sr. Systems admin / Engineer that…

This describes me as well. I’m almost to the point of grinding leetcode and learning react or some such front end. I have no AWS-esque type skills or anything scaling/web related.

My last pref. review I was told “you’re the guy we ask to solve problems 10x harder than the other devs. Anyone can patch a bug, we always ask you to figure out the things nobody else can.” Which unfortunately doesn’t translate well on a resume or in an interview.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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from my exp. hiring for ages, they interview lots of people, then it goes quiet - nothing comes of it.

6 months later you hear some nepotistic hire takes the position.

maybe companies prefer people they know rather than 1000s of applicants.

also a toxic culture of seeking perfection and a cargo culting attitude prevalent among many senior/lead engineers and managers. maybe justified, i dont know and i dont care anymore.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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post #4

Its tough out there. I have a degree from Cambridge, 10 years of (quant) experience at hedge funds and banks and im still getting rejected too. I will only say 12 applications isnt that much these days, keep persevering and you will hit your stride soon enough. Good luck.

Do you have a resume?

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Ha! Just got rejected from a process in the EU (not desperately looking) cause of a super nit picky coding challenge project. The project worked exactly to spec, I just overlooked the use of a third party package on a (Django) DB model to replace the "created_at" field.

Oh well! My 4 hours of coding was not totally a waste.

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I have not from the perspective of seeking emplyment, but from the smaller mid-size employer side (200 employees, robotics) we have had to reject a number of candidates. Normally this is based on a resume review (so as not to waste people's time), but sometimes it does come out in interviews. My main challenge, and I'm not saying this is the case for you - I'm just offering the perspective on the other side, has been finding individuals/developers who plan committed to the company for the long haul (e.g. 5, or ideally 10 years) - not just a year or so. Learning our code base and the underlying math requires a significant investment, and we've had a rash of folks come in, learn what they can, and then depart, leaving us to repeat the cycle all over again. It's taking a toll, so we're actively seeking people who are committed to the long run so that the energy we invest in education has a decent return.

Again, not saying this is the problem you're facing or that every company needs to have long-duration and less-transient staff. This is just one issue I'm seeing and it's possible that it could potentially be a contributing factor.

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post #2

Yeah going thru the process of 5-7 interviews just to get lowballed or ghosted is pretty draining. I’m guessing it’s just a tough market and I’m getting edged out by other candidates or companies have so many applicants they can offer less than I asked for during screening.

In Germany: this was my experience late last fall as well. It's not that I got no offers, it's just that the ones I got (2) were at least 30% below what I had asked for. It's definitely employer's market right now.

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Everyone.

I am a very senior PM with two big name tech companies on my resume, and the track record of bringing multiple products from zero to one and creating revenue (and even profit!) from them.

In the old days, I had recruiters in my LinkedIn, I would breeze through the first 30 minute screener calls, and get lots of call backs. My hit rate for job applications for non-FAANG cold applies was fairly high.

Two months ago when I was looking, I was getting basically zero job application responses, half my screeners ghosted me, and I had very few recruiters reaching out. I think maybe 3 in 3 months-ish.

I got very lucky and landed a job, but it was a mild pay cut, and the company is basically on fire

Both them and my previous massively growing employer are not hiring ANYONE, even software engineers, which is the easier role to get picked up for.

My buddy who’s unemployed in PMM, can’t get a call back from anyone. It’s really bad

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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I've actually been thinking about this. Seems like a lot of local jobs require a CDL (post office, parks department, bus driver, etc). How was your experience? It seems intimidating, but lots of people do those jobs, so must not be as bad as I think.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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post #12

I am having a tough time... I am a systems administrator who also has experience teaching and coding, but I am looking at systems admins / engineering positions only. I consider myself highly experienced in Linux / Unix. A few years back, I could just word of mouth say I was looking and have offers. Now, nothing. Lots of ghosting after the 2nd or 3rd interview. Very few positions for Sr. Systems admin / Engineer that…

This describes me as well. I’m almost to the point of grinding leetcode and learning react or some such front end. I have no AWS-esque type skills or anything scaling/web related. My last pref. review I was told “you’re the guy we ask to solve problems 10x harder than the other devs. Anyone can patch a bug, we always ask you to figure out the things nobody else can.” Which unfortunately doesn’t translate well on a re…

Especially in something like the current market, being a highly-regarded "fixer" (or whatever you want to call it) probably doesn't get you past first-level screens looking for specific skills/experience. One of the reasons networks are so important.
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