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Re: Infinite Mac: Turning to the dark side

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Post by mihaip »

jdswain wrote: post #26
wk_end wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any hope of getting more software onto these? I'd love to play around with some ancient versions of proto-XCode.

That would be Project Builder and Interface Builder. Project Builder was kind of a graphical make tool and Interface Builder was the real star of the show, it was the graphical user interface builder. And there was Edit for source code editing. There were sold as separate product, NeXTStep Developer that had all the development tools, but if you bought the education version of NeXTstep the developer tools came bundle…

The Developer CD for the 3.3 release is in the CD-ROM drawer, you should be able to mount it and install IB and PB.

Re: Infinite Mac: Turning to the dark side

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Post by m463 »

helf wrote: post #5

god I miss my NeXT hardware. I used one as a daily driver till ~2008ish. sniff Shouldn't have sold it.

I saved an old sun system of mine.

Now I realize it's not bootable without a 13w3 to something video adapter, and a sun cdrom, and a sun keyboard, and more...

Re: Infinite Mac: Turning to the dark side

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Post by smusamashah »

Other JS based in browser OS emulators

https://copy.sh/v86/

https://webvm.io/

https://bellard.org/jslinux/

https://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/ (https://github.com/jsdf/pce)

https://www.pcjs.org/ (lots of hardware and OSes) (https://github.com/jeffpar/pcjs)

https://jamesfriend.com.au/projects/basiliskii/BasiliskII-wo...

Re: Infinite Mac: Turning to the dark side

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smusamashah wrote: post #34

Other JS based in browser OS emulators https://copy.sh/v86/ https://webvm.io/ https://bellard.org/jslinux/ https://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/ ( https://github.com/jsdf/pce ) https://www.pcjs.org/ (lots of hardware and OSes) ( https://github.com/jeffpar/pcjs ) https://jamesfriend.com.au/projects/basiliskii/BasiliskII-wo...

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Re: Infinite Mac: Turning to the dark side

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Post by mihaip »

whartung wrote: post #28

Is this a "cycle accurate" system? (For assorted values of "accurate".) That is, is what were seeing with this similar to what we'd see on real hardware, or is the browser the determinant of performance.

The CPU emulator tries to be pretty accurate about timing, but the I/O is not throttled, so that might be unrealistically fast (depending on your Internet connection).

Re: Infinite Mac: Turning to the dark side

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Post by helf »

gattilorenz wrote: post #8
helf wrote: post #5

god I miss my NeXT hardware. I used one as a daily driver till ~2008ish. sniff Shouldn't have sold it.

I’m curious how you used it as a daily driver back then. Did you use it for internet access? Granted, JS was less prevalent back then, but I’m not sure what browser you had available. What about listening to mp3s while doing something else, could the m68k manage or are you just not doing those things normally?

Im currently putting kids to bed and dead tired. So I will dig up stuff and post a better response tomorrow.

But tl,dr: most everything I did was SSH based for network. Otherwise document editing, pdf viewing etc worked fine. I had a turbo color 33mhz with 128mb of ram.

I also had a ton of custom compiled replacement libraries friends and I worked on and we managed to get newer openSSL working with omniweb etc. I was able to use html mode gmail even! :)

Re: Infinite Mac: Turning to the dark side

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Post by helf »

helf wrote: post #5

god I miss my NeXT hardware. I used one as a daily driver till ~2008ish. sniff Shouldn't have sold it.

Link to a past post of mine with flickr links to my old NeXT stuff for people interested.

I reeeeeaallly want to get another one again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35865933

Oh, here is a screenshot of my NeXT loading gmail:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/helfer/3947037084/in/photolist...

Dated 2009. So I think I was actually using it till 2010.

Re: Infinite Mac: Turning to the dark side

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Post by nineteen999 »

whartung wrote: post #24
im_down_w_otp wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. That’s the version I run on my “Turbo Slab”. It’s always kind of amazing what a 33 MHz 68040 was capable of whenever I fire it up and fool around.

Boy, I’d love nothing more than for some team at Apple to take the NS 3.3 source code and port it to an RPi 400. They could even punt on the multi core aspect. Just port the drivers and get the frame buffer to work with the raw DPS server. Do with NS what the Squeak team did with Smalltalk. That would be such a wonder. I’d buy that for a dollar.

> I’d buy that for a dollar.

They even throw in a giant picture of Steve Jobs in your default mail inbox for free.

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