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Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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I honestly pray for the day PC gaming works 99% on Linux. I hate Windows 11, it prompts me every 3 days to setup my Microsoft account and then every update it reinstalls OneDrive and the list of bull shit it included by default is over 300 items long. Thankfully the Steam deck seems to have accelerated progress in this regard, but its still a long way to go, specifically multiplayer shooters.

I think we’re at 90% right now. I’ve been gaming on Linux (both retro and new games) for the past 3 or 4 years and the vast majority run with either no or minimal, identical config.

Do they perform the same as they would on Windows though? No FPS loss for example?

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unrelated but it's interesting how english uses the same word to refer to what in spanish could be "clave", "llave" and "tecla" all vastly distinct specialisations of a "key".

It’s no wonder. English isn’t known for its expressiveness. That’s one of the many reasons why it’s commonly used in the tech industry for defining reserved keywords in programming languages; its simplicity compared to other languages makes it ideal for that purpose.

Citation needed?

English has one of the largest vocabularies of any language (depends on how you measure, what counts as a word is a complicated question...) and it's just as expressive as anything else.

It's used in tech because it's the default language and it's spoken by the default country, not because of any metaphisical property of the language itself...

Tokens in the concrete syntax of formal languages are just placeholders, you could use arbitrary symbols instead and the abstract syntax wouldn't change.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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“Copilot key” refers to a physical key on a keyboard. Not some sort of product key burned into the CPU or a licensing dongle. That later was what I initially thought based on the title.

This cleared up the confusion. I was expecting to come to the comments to read an endless string of F-bombs about some Microsoft Copilot license key burnt into the hardware.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we’re at 90% right now. I’ve been gaming on Linux (both retro and new games) for the past 3 or 4 years and the vast majority run with either no or minimal, identical config.

Do they perform the same as they would on Windows though? No FPS loss for example?

It's been a while since I paid attention, but when I last looked it was a spread; some games were slower on Linux, but some were faster.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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This is so ridiculous, I can’t wait for this trend to pass.

"The internet is a fad". Odd seeing sentiments like that here, always really amusing the extreme irony.

And 3D (with or without special glasses) was a fad. You can't judge all new hype on the handful of things that actually were as big of a deal as they could have been.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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This is so ridiculous, I can’t wait for this trend to pass.

"The internet is a fad". Odd seeing sentiments like that here, always really amusing the extreme irony.

To the extent that the technologies called "AI" are useful, they won't be summoned by a dedicated button on a keyboard, and they won't come because companies desperate for relevance shove it in every corner of the user experience, even where it doesn't belong, long before the technology is actually ready. The trend I'm bemoaning is pasting "AI" on everything and pretending it adds value because it's "AI".

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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post #11

Is Microsoft putting a local model onto each Windows 11 install now? Would an Intel NPU built into Intel's CPUs make copilot perform better? I though Copilot was exclusively ran through a Bing i-frame-esque window in Windows 11? Unless they're planning to make locally run AI models that will take advantage of Intel's NPU's in the future and this is a step to prepare for it? Very interesting.

As far as I can tell from the current preview releases, the Copilot stuff still runs in the cloud, and it would be infeasible to run a general GPT-like chatbot on consumer PC hardware for a good while. I imagine the NPU stuff is for assist with misc local AI/ML tasks, like photo editing and typing auto-correct ala what Apple's doing with their OSes.

> it would be infeasible to run a general GPT-like chatbot on consumer PC hardware for a good while.

It's lower quality and slower than cloud, but I can run ollama on my aging laptops today; I wouldn't be surprised if the addition of hardware acceleration allowed new PCs to run a chatbot locally.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

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The Windows key is a recent addition to the PC keyboard layouts: there are many Model M keyboards with Windows-key-sized gaps in their lower rows. I'll be interested to see how the mechanical keyboard community reacts to this once these keyboards are ubiquitous. The Signature Plastics keycaps on my keyboard have the legend SYSTEM on the Windows key (or Super key, since I don't use Windows): how will this evolve?

The Copilot key is essentially a rebranding and takeover of the context menu key. Besides a new label for the keycap and maybe a different key mapping it won't effect much. It'll probably have a bigger impact on ThinkPads that will have to move Print Screen again.

> The Copilot key is essentially a rebranding and takeover of the context menu key.

The...what?

I mean, I know what it is, but I haven't seen a keyboard with one in a while; my Microsoft ergonomic wireless keyboard has the Fn key where it would normally be, and my Alienware laptop has a windows-key-disabling-lock-key there, and my Dell Vostro sacrifices the space to make room for having both arrow keys and a numeric pad on a laptop.

So, in practice, I think this is going to be an extra key to fit in, not a repurposing, because you can't repurpose what doesn't exist.

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