Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

theverge.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 57 posts

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#31

Post by Pannoniae »

bearjaws wrote: post #13

I honestly pray for the day PC gaming works 99% on Linux. I hate Windows 11, it prompts me every 3 days to setup my Microsoft account and then every update it reinstalls OneDrive and the list of bull shit it included by default is over 300 items long. Thankfully the Steam deck seems to have accelerated progress in this regard, but its still a long way to go, specifically multiplayer shooters.

I mean, other than very old games (try running Sid Meier's Pirates under proton! it's barely playable) and user-hostile games (if the developers use anticheats which block Linux on purpose, that's not really Linux's fault) we are at least 95% of the way there.

Sure, there will always be someone who will complain that "Valorant doesn't run on Linux" but the overwhelming majority of games do.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#32

Post by runjake »

Tangential question: is there any indication that PC hardware or the x64 will be adopting unified memory with an ultra-fast bus to the CPU, for general purpose computing in the near future?

(Yes, I am aware of the AMD UMA stuff, but it looks to me like special purpose stuff.)

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#33

Post by guessmyname »

eddd-ddde wrote: post #24
MarkSweep wrote: post #2

“Copilot key” refers to a physical key on a keyboard. Not some sort of product key burned into the CPU or a licensing dongle. That later was what I initially thought based on the title.

Unrelated but it's interesting how english uses the same word to refer to what in spanish could be "clave", "llave" and "tecla" all vastly distinct specialisations of a "key".

It’s no wonder. English isn’t known for its expressiveness. That’s one of the many reasons why it’s commonly used in the tech industry for defining reserved keywords in programming languages; its simplicity compared to other languages makes it ideal for that purpose.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#34

Post by squigz »

MarkSweep wrote: post #2

“Copilot key” refers to a physical key on a keyboard. Not some sort of product key burned into the CPU or a licensing dongle. That later was what I initially thought based on the title.

This seems strange to me, but given at least 2 others did the same... maybe I'm the strange one!

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#35

Post by goosedragons »

cjs_ac wrote: post #8

The Windows key is a recent addition to the PC keyboard layouts: there are many Model M keyboards with Windows-key-sized gaps in their lower rows. I'll be interested to see how the mechanical keyboard community reacts to this once these keyboards are ubiquitous. The Signature Plastics keycaps on my keyboard have the legend SYSTEM on the Windows key (or Super key, since I don't use Windows): how will this evolve?

The Copilot key is essentially a rebranding and takeover of the context menu key. Besides a new label for the keycap and maybe a different key mapping it won't effect much. It'll probably have a bigger impact on ThinkPads that will have to move Print Screen again.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#36

Post by goosedragons »

usui wrote: post #28

Really? PC users need a fully-dedicated physical key for more AI bullshit because it wouldn't be enough to just macro it with WIN+ or key-chord it? It would be detrimental to PC users' lives if they had to put slightly more effort to activate some gimmick AI feature? Imagine if a physical key dedicated to bringing up Clippy was added.

Yeah, because they need to advertise it as much as possible to get people subscribed and using it. By abusing the certification process pretty much every OEM realistically needs to go through they can get near free advertising for a feature that can generate much revenue.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#37

Post by Justsignedup »

guessmyname wrote: post #33
eddd-ddde wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unrelated but it's interesting how english uses the same word to refer to what in spanish could be "clave", "llave" and "tecla" all vastly distinct specialisations of a "key".

It’s no wonder. English isn’t known for its expressiveness. That’s one of the many reasons why it’s commonly used in the tech industry for defining reserved keywords in programming languages; its simplicity compared to other languages makes it ideal for that purpose.

isn't english one of the most expressive languages out there...? has an explicit word for most concepts. its just a bit fuzzy on the top 2000 words.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#38

Post by rawgabbit »

scohesc wrote: post #11

Is Microsoft putting a local model onto each Windows 11 install now? Would an Intel NPU built into Intel's CPUs make copilot perform better? I though Copilot was exclusively ran through a Bing i-frame-esque window in Windows 11? Unless they're planning to make locally run AI models that will take advantage of Intel's NPU's in the future and this is a step to prepare for it? Very interesting.

Knowing Microsoft's history, their intent is to suck up all of our Copilot chat history and responses. They will slowly get enough information about us where they even simulate a virtual clone of our online activity.

Re: Microsoft's new era of AI PCs will need a Copilot key, says Intel

#39

Post by eddd-ddde »

Justsignedup wrote: post #37
guessmyname wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s no wonder. English isn’t known for its expressiveness. That’s one of the many reasons why it’s commonly used in the tech industry for defining reserved keywords in programming languages; its simplicity compared to other languages makes it ideal for that purpose.

isn't english one of the most expressive languages out there...? has an explicit word for most concepts. its just a bit fuzzy on the top 2000 words.

I don't think so. To begin with, you have no real grammar modes or inflection. Also lots of concepts are merged into shared words.

Some examples: Some languages have two verbs for the state of being, "ser", "estar" which mean different things, you can be cold, or you can _be_ cold. The key example from before. English relies heavily on explicitness which makes it less expressive (less context per word), you cant just say "ate" you need to say "they ate".

Post reply on HN