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Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by motoxpro »

morkalork wrote: post #497
groby_b wrote: post #361

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Their competence is measured by their success, not your opinions. And it turns out that in many professions, an insta is the thing you need for success. If you don't like it, that's your problem, not theirs. You're part of a small enough group they don't care about. I'm not sure how that's an age question in the first place, though. The "being run by millenials" throwaway by GP is just... well, at best, sloppy thinki…

Well, I went to the bakery and I can attest that they are indeed run by millennials. I will argue with the technical ineptness point made earlier though. If you can figure out how to make videos with music and edit in animated graphics using the tools Instagram or whoever else provides, you can figure out Wix's website builder.

Why do you need them to have a website? A thing that has no traffic, no discoverabilty, needs to be updated, paid for, etc?

All the information is already on google maps and IG/Facebook.

They have 2-3 billion people in their target audience.

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Post by koolba »

Paul-Craft wrote: post #491
koolba wrote: post #490

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27 years ago we didn’t have children spending 90% of their waking hours staring at network connected devices. Only the nerds did that and it was in a computer lab. And they knew enough about keeping up appearances to hit Alt-Tab when an adult was getting close.

How is that legally relevant?

As society changes, it’s reasonable for a court to re-examine the effects of previously decided legislation to gauge whether the impact and societal cost can be justified.

It’s not like we don’t have other laws that restrict what we can do or where we can do it.

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Post by jrflowers »

ericmcer wrote: post #303
squigz wrote: post #298

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> but you cant just tell kids they are doomed Lying to them when they can see the evidence to the contrary is better?

I approach life thinking that I should do the best for myself and my family regardless of what broad societal problems are. I want to raise my kids to be the same way. There is no way I am going to raise them thinking they should just quit. It isn't a lie, I don't know what the future will be but I know there will be people who thrive and people who wither.

I’m trying to imagine, as someone that was an adult for the 2008 crash, saying “the economy will always be good for people that work hard and smart” out loud with a straight face.

It would have to be either

a) a complete fabrication or

b) a little play on words where “working smart and hard” is the load-bearing bit of phrasing that implies that any negative impacts from economic downturn would strictly reflect on a person’s work ethic and/or intelligence.

“Don’t worry about the future, your net worth will reflect your personal worth regardless of external economic conditions!” sounds way more depressing than “the economic hardships you were born during and have seen in your short lifetime are not likely to evaporate by the time you enter the workforce”

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Post by ein0p »

Could we maybe also start passing laws under which internet connected devices such as phones are not allowed in schools during class? I fear that we’re raising a generation of scatter brained know nothings with attention spans of a fruit fly, who watched YouTube in class instead of listening to the teacher. That is not without cost - some of those kids will have much worse life outcomes due to the lack of even basic education.

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Post by quasarj »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #434
LVB wrote: post #360

Let the experiment take place, I say. Just like Oregon’s now-repealed drug use decriminalization bill. It didn’t achieve its intended goals, but there is now a mass of data about what assumptions were wrong, implementation issues, etc. IMO there is real value in letting states put such changes into play to get beyond the debate and actually test the hypotheses.

> Let the experiment take place, I say It is an unconstitutional law; it is following the path of similar unconstitutional laws¹²³. Where is the experiment? ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Entertainment_Merchan... ² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._American_Civil_Liberti... (sections about minor access to indecent material struck down) ³ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/ohio/oh...

It's an experiment in if the new court will actually care

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Post by hackable_sand »

kevingadd wrote: post #363
ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #317

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Yes, because gender issues didn't exist until the internet did. They definitely didn't exist decades or centuries ago: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-his...

Good read! I learned something really cool today :)

Here's something for you!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_in_Bugis_society

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Post by dangus »

somethingreen wrote: post #334
dangus wrote: post #213

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What I’m really unclear about is whether providers are required to use an actual ID to age verify. Does anyone know? The bill summary on the Florida senate webpage says: > Such commercial entities must verify, using either an anonymous or standard age verification method, that the age of a person attempting to access the material harmful to minors satisfies the bill’s age requirements. It sounds to me like “anonymous…

Anonymous verification could be something like OAuth. Government run or certified probably. You'd need to provide an ID to OAuth provider once, but the actual service requesting verification would get as little as your age and email.

I just wonder if they even have to go that far. I didn’t really see much of a standard of what is age verification defined.

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Post by jimbokun »

xerox13ster wrote: post #484
mrkstu wrote: post #475

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What about them? They’re not being forced into that, most are having to fight tooth and nail to be heard and to get access to the treatment. You very clearly have no idea what’s going on with trans kids. Modern trans healthcare has nothing to do with people in the past being sterilized as punishment. OTOH, this law is actually being forced on minors, even if they’re not in what you consider a punishable minority. Als…

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