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Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by vel0city »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #209
KaiserPro wrote: post #132

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I did too, but I would gently point out that you had to actively look for it. something rotten was a known site for that kinda stuff. You only went there if you were doing "illicit browsing" shall we say. It was pretty difficult to stumble over a video of something visceral. Moreover, the internet wasn't real when we grew up. The internet is real and omnipresent, filled with the mountains of clickbated bullshit, and…

We had chatroullette too for our more sporadic visceral disturbances, also live leak existed then.

You did not have Chatroulette (2009) and Liveleak (2006) 25 years ago.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by jliptzin »

LVB wrote: post #360

Let the experiment take place, I say. Just like Oregon’s now-repealed drug use decriminalization bill. It didn’t achieve its intended goals, but there is now a mass of data about what assumptions were wrong, implementation issues, etc. IMO there is real value in letting states put such changes into play to get beyond the debate and actually test the hypotheses.

You’re assuming the politicians enacting this law care about such data much less learn anything from it.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by scarface_74 »

gopher_space wrote: post #353
scarface_74 wrote: post #223

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The last thing we need is to force everyone to have ID to “protect the children” before I can go on to a site on the internet.

Kids-only internet (moderated by child development phds, idk) you need specific, cheap hardware to access. Less walled garden, more sandbox. It wouldn't be a place for entrepreneurs. Registration and access maintained at the county level or smaller so that community standards and relationships shape adoption and use. Low age cutoff with actual adults trying to connect put in jail and on a list.

I’m struggling to parse anything you said.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by bear141 »

geraldhh wrote: post #164
luplex wrote: post #156

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I don't think the main problem with social media is the occasional inappropriate content. The main problem is that most of the "appropriate" content is soul-sucking, biased, addictive and empty of substance.

> most of the "appropriate" content is soul-sucking, biased, addictive and empty of substance sounds a lot like tv

While a lot of this can definitely sound like an old man yelling at the sky, tv compared to scrolling tiktok, is like caffeine compared to crack cocaine.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by scarface_74 »

knightoffaith wrote: post #341
scarface_74 wrote: post #223

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The last thing we need is to force everyone to have ID to “protect the children” before I can go on to a site on the internet.

Right, definitely wouldn't want that. But do we just have to accept the negative impact the internet can have on children as a necessary evil then?

So you would be okay giving your ID to Facebook or any other site before you can access it?

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by smackeyacky »

alphabettsy wrote: post #81

The biggest problem I see is that we’re now essentially requiring ID to use substantial parts of the internet. So many business only have a Facebook page, Google maps has social features. I already didn’t want a Facebook account just to see a businesses specials, now I’ll need to present ID too? Certainly interested to see how all this plays out.

I don't bother with businesses that only have a Facebook account when I'm searching. I'm sure there are dozens of us doing the same.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by vel0city »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #212
alfor wrote: post #136

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Just look at birth rate, depression, etc. You will see we are in a dead end. I don't think this law will change the trend unless there is major concerted effort. Boys have access to so much porn and gaming that they are checking out of real life. Girls have their problems too with social media.

Porn and gaming? Really? Boys had this in spades for 35 years. Longer if you count the pinball wizard/hustler magazine under the bed era.

There's a world of difference between a 90's Hustler magazine and near infinite modern internet porn. They're practically incomparable.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by ksherlock »

exabrial wrote: post #333

I'll be the odd guy out and say it should probably be illegal to attempt to enter a contract (AUP, privacy policy, etc) with a minor anyway (for a lot of reasons around exploitation), so I don't _really_ have a major issue with this at face value. I know the devil is in the details though, so kinda curious what the actual provisions are. The alternative is a free internet, where we don't need accounts to do things, b…

Generally speaking, in the US, contracts with minor (< 18) are voidable, that is, at any time the minor can break the contract. This creates a situation where no one would ever contract with a minor, which is obviously bad (how is an emancipated minor supposed to rent an apartment?) so there are statutory exceptions where the contract will be enforced.

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Post by smallerfish »

nicoburns wrote: post #343
wannacboatmovie wrote: post #336

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They sound like incompetent business proprietors. When did having a website become something exclusively for old people? Millennials are in their 30s and 40s.

> When did having a website become something exclusively for old people? It's more that having a website never became a thing for many businesses in the first place. 30 years ago they might have had a listing in the phone book. Nowadays that kind of business might have a facebook page, or more recently an instagram account. Creating a website (even with something like wix) requires a level of skill and effort above t…

They're just being cheap. Facebook is free (and "everybody has Facebook") whereas Wix and Squarespace are $12-$15/mo for businesses.

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Post by [deleted] »

Solvency wrote: post #372
LVB wrote: post #360

Let the experiment take place, I say. Just like Oregon’s now-repealed drug use decriminalization bill. It didn’t achieve its intended goals, but there is now a mass of data about what assumptions were wrong, implementation issues, etc. IMO there is real value in letting states put such changes into play to get beyond the debate and actually test the hypotheses.

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