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Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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I love Affinity and I don't love Canva. I'm hopeful nothing much changes but I'm not holding my breath. I'll pay a subscription over my dead body.

Agreed, but Canva isn't really for us. Canva is for the types of people who "want a poster/t-shirt/etc that's pretty enough and have no skills with Photoshop." Canva is buying Affinity to expand their market into professionals, not to water it down.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Oh boy. I willingly gave my money to Affinity because I don’t want a subscription model, I don’t want my creative apps to rely on the cloud _at all_ to work _and_ I want native Mac apps. I am not reassured by their FAQ at all. I suspect a year from now Canva will break at least one (if not all three) of these features and force me to leave Affinity by version 3. It would be extremely ironic if Gimp was the only graph…

In addition to Gimp there are: - Paint.net - Pixen - Inkscape --- straight-forward vector editing - Seashore --- this is Mac OS UI overlay for GIMP - Krita --- vector editing with painting features - Scribus --- page layout - TeX/LaTeX --- batch/markup driven page layout which can do anything one can put together a TeX macro to achieve (I use it a lot and have written articles for TUGboat on it: https://tug.org/TUGbo…

Photopea as well (photoshop clone in browser)

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

#253

The link should probably be changed to official announcement.[1] That said, this is pretty dismaying. I've been using Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo for years. Their standalone and non-subscription based apps are perfect for my usecase. Compared to Adobe, they are a no-brainer. But, I don't think Canva would leave them be as is. Either next versions will be a subscription or a rug pull is coming for the existin…

“Compete with Adobe” presumably means they will enshitten Affinity software even worse than Adobe did theirs. Looking forward to subscription-based ad-infested nagware.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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If Adobe would have a little bit of brain left, they would offer a cheaper subscription now. Essentially covering Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign. Instead of only the reasonably priced PS/LR bundle versus the too expensive "all the products we ever had" bundle. They could basically wipe out Affinity. But yeah, won't happen I guess...

They don’t need to do that. First, Adobe doesn’t see Affinity as meaningful competition. Adobe sees Figma and Canva (and Blackmagic and Avid in the NLE space) as competition, but a company doing £30m a year in revenue is barely a blip on their radar (Adobe did nearly $20b in revenue in FY23). Second, for the lowend market that Affinity serves, Adobe Express (its Canva compete) and Photoshop Express ($35 a year) are g…

You have a point. I guess Adobe lowering the subscription prices is probably more wishful thinking on my part ;)

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is fairly lucrative business, $2b last year from serving the lower end of creative tools market. They are also about to ipo so this acquisition probably gives the an additinal growth story to sell.

> It is fairly lucrative business, $2b last year from serving the lower end of creative tools market. Started by some 30 yo Australian chick with no tech background too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep21f3ncvBk

Your point?

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In addition to Gimp there are: - Paint.net - Pixen - Inkscape --- straight-forward vector editing - Seashore --- this is Mac OS UI overlay for GIMP - Krita --- vector editing with painting features - Scribus --- page layout - TeX/LaTeX --- batch/markup driven page layout which can do anything one can put together a TeX macro to achieve (I use it a lot and have written articles for TUGboat on it: https://tug.org/TUGbo…

There is also Graphite ( https://graphite.rs/ ) which, unlike Gimp, has a modern architecture and very ambitious goals (Blender for 2D basically).

Features: Written in Rust.

Not really a feature.

Also it has very little implemented right now. Kind of disappointing when I clicked through hoping to find a gimp alternative.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

#260

Well, I’m glad I have my standalone license. I guess I’ll be on Designer V2 for the next 10 years like I was with Illustrator CS3.

I’m increasingly tempted to buy a second hand license for one of the old single-purchase Creative Suites and just run that in a VM or with period-accurate hardware forever. For me practically all of the value in current graphic editors is compatibility with modern operating systems… CS1-CS3 are basically feature complete as far as I’m concerned.

Honestly there's still things from CS3 that are missing in Designer V2! Being able to auto-trace sketches is still something that Designer can't do. There isn't really much that I'm doing now in a vector editor, that I wasn't doing 15 years ago. "feature complete" is a good way to put it.
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