I agree with Meta that this should be implemented at an app store level
Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
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#42I support this in theory, but good luck trying to outmaneuver teens on the internet. I foresee a proliferation of age faking tools, VPNs, etc.
If you start fining the social media companies for breaking this law, this problem will be fixed quickly. Your demoralization propaganda is a line perpetuated by these companies to avoid responsibility
> If you start fining the social media companies for breaking this law, this problem will be fixed quickly.
A rational solution that would work? Can't have that, won't have that. Who said this? Stop that person from breathing. (sarcasm folks.)
Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#43Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#44I grew up as social media came into being(mid 2000s). When I was 13, I got Myspace. When I was 16, I got Facebook. It wasn't until well into college that I realized the impact social media had on my mental health. I would go further and say nobody until 18 should have social media, but that may be unrealistic in 2024.
Just curious, how did it affect your mental health?
I would sit on facebook, refreshing and doom scrolling endlessly. When fb messenger came out I was monitoring facebook messenger when it first came out to see who was online. I was always a pretty lonely kid, and I thought social media would connect me with people. It didn't really.
Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#45"I don't want my kids using social media without my permission" is a problem that already has a solution: put parental controls on your kids devices.
We don't need Daddy Government to make decisions that can and should be made by parents.
Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#46Does anyone know where to find the actual law text? Otherwise it's hard to assess, what this really means.
Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#47>Critics have said the bill violates the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protections for free speech and that parents, not the government, should make decisions about the online presence of their children of all ages. It's extremely difficult for parents to stop their children, especially early teens from using social media. This law should make it easier and it would put the work on Meta, Snap, Tiktok, Pinterest…
> It's extremely difficult for parents to stop their children, especially early teens from using social media.
What are you talking about? Parents can use on-device controls, you can lock a phone down in many ways. There will be whiz kids who can get around these, but those few whiz kids can also easily get around any controls via legislation with VPNs.
Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#48People might see it as harsh but looking at reality and the hard numbers collected about the gigantic negative impact it has on kids and teenagers this is the right move, would even push it till 18.
Why 18 and not 25?
Because you have to draw the line somewhere, and 18 is considered when someone is capable of their own adult decision making.
Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#49People might see it as harsh but looking at reality and the hard numbers collected about the gigantic negative impact it has on kids and teenagers this is the right move, would even push it till 18.
Why 18 and not 25?
Because at 18 people are responsible for their own actions, and restricting them after that is unreasonable and contrary to personal freedom.
There's a consistent factoid going around that brains aren't done developing until the age of 25. It's frequently used as an argument to restrict young people.
Looking at performance by age in fields like math and music, declining brain plasticity seems more like a reason to implement the carousel from Logan's Run
Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#50I support this in theory, but good luck trying to outmaneuver teens on the internet. I foresee a proliferation of age faking tools, VPNs, etc.
Yup. The actual solution here is regulation requiring social media and device manufacturers (networking and user devices like phones) to have simple, accessible, and robust parental controls. The law proposed here is a stupid hammer that won't do anything but piss everyone off. Definitely what I've come to expect from my worthless state government (I live here, I'm sorry, ive tried to replace these people several tim…
If teens are so so amazing at getting around restrictions why do you propose parental controls? No these companies should be responsible for not letting teens use their platform just as tobacco companies and those selling their products are responsible for not selling to teens. We already have parental controls and this is a do nothing solution which puts the onus on already overwhelmed parents and fixes literally nothing.
We’re looking for actual solutions here, not to check a box and pretend we tried