Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because bridges over harbors are quite common an incidents like this are rare.
The Dutch ports of both Amsterdam and Rotterdam have no bridges at all. It's all tunnels. I think that's the best way to go; the least chance of conflict between road and water traffic.
Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
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Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bridges only last for roughly 50 years. Considering such collisions are rare enough to make the news as a memorable event you can workout for yourself that the odds are quite low over a bridges lifespan. They are designed to withstand smaller boat impacts because they occur relatively frequently, but cost vs benefit on rare events that are difficult to mitigate is quite different.
Interested in this claim, because it sounds about right, except that I can’t name a bridge constructed in the past 50 years. The bridges we can all name are pushing 100+ right?
Here's an interesting list of major bridges with dates, most of the newer ones being replacements: https://www.carolinadesigns.com/obx-guide/fun-info/bridges/
They even note a rare exception designed to last 100 years with maintenance.
Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#243Also important to note. The logistic company running this ship was Maersk. That is the same shipping company that had the ever given stuck in the suez canal a few years ago. Is Maersk now officially the "Boeing" of shipping?
Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#244Didn’t waterway authorities (in the U.S.) used to require tugs to navigate large ships under bridges?
We'll be hearing a lot more about this. It's a really major accident.
I used to live in Bawldamer, in the early 1980s. Back then, it was a tough, blue-collar city, but not yet The Wire.
Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#245Somehow I find it surprising how completely the bridge collapsed after the damage. I understand that a container ship collision is serious, but you could imagine a scenarios where the bridge slumps or buckles but doesn’t just disintegrate like that. It’s surprising that ships capable of doing this damage were probably regularly driving past it, and its safety as a thoroughfare depended entirely on those collisions no…
At least in the links with the video now you can see that the container ship directly hits one of the two main (and in the central area only) pillars completely collapsing it. No matter(1) the engineering there is no pretty much way to not lose the whole large middle area and left area leading to the destroyed pillar in that situation. Such a collapse crates so much force (tension vibrations etc.) so that the collaps…
But I guess I thought that maybe there was... typically some kind of earthen buffer around the pillar to prevent such an impact?
That's probably impractical too, I guess.
I guess I just didn't realize ~$1bn bridges were one fluky ship accident away from total collapse at any given time. I think maybe I prefer my previous state of ignorance, to be quite honest....
Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#246Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#247Not that it matters to anyone else, but having driven across that bridge dozens of times with my kids, this is just shocking. It’s one of the main corridors in the area. Thank god it happened in the middle of the night, though that’ll be no consolation to the families of those who may have died.
Local to the area. This was devastating news to wake up to. I don't know what's wrong with me but seeing this and knowing there were casualties made me cry. Edit: Maybe I'm just tired and need more sleep.
Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#248Somehow I find it surprising how completely the bridge collapsed after the damage. I understand that a container ship collision is serious, but you could imagine a scenarios where the bridge slumps or buckles but doesn’t just disintegrate like that. It’s surprising that ships capable of doing this damage were probably regularly driving past it, and its safety as a thoroughfare depended entirely on those collisions no…
Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#249Somehow I find it surprising how completely the bridge collapsed after the damage. I understand that a container ship collision is serious, but you could imagine a scenarios where the bridge slumps or buckles but doesn’t just disintegrate like that. It’s surprising that ships capable of doing this damage were probably regularly driving past it, and its safety as a thoroughfare depended entirely on those collisions no…
At least in the links with the video now you can see that the container ship directly hits one of the two main (and in the central area only) pillars completely collapsing it. No matter(1) the engineering there is no pretty much way to not lose the whole large middle area and left area leading to the destroyed pillar in that situation. Such a collapse crates so much force (tension vibrations etc.) so that the collaps…
Exactly. It is only the scale and the viewing angle that makes it seem slow moving.
Re: Baltimore's Key Bridge struck by cargo ship, collapses
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bridges only last for roughly 50 years. Considering such collisions are rare enough to make the news as a memorable event you can workout for yourself that the odds are quite low over a bridges lifespan. They are designed to withstand smaller boat impacts because they occur relatively frequently, but cost vs benefit on rare events that are difficult to mitigate is quite different.
Doesn't the US have a problem with bridges exceeding their expected service lives?
So it's an issue, but those bridges where also constructed by a far poorer nation so it's not that big a deal.