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Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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I've never seen much hate for Canva until this thread. HN will really hate on any kind of acquisition, regardless of if the acquirer is a "big bad" like Adobe or not.

Most comments seem to be from Affinity customers. I've been a customer for many years. They have incredible software, and it's extremely sad because past acquisitions seem to destroy the applications people like and support, not the other way around. Canva looks like McDonalds.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Have you actually used the products you’re recommending and the Adobe equivalents? I would say that InDesign easily won over then industry-standard Quark nearly two decades ago, and Resolve is okay but not great at most things. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of Resolve and its pricing, but like Affinity, it’s not quite on par with the features of Adobe’s products. I’m routinely frustrated by missing features. I have c…

I think Davinci is great. What are you missing?

FCP X’s simple timeline which chains clips together making edits easy, though some would call this an anti-feature.

After Effects simplicity compared to the hellscape that can be node-based VG work. I mean, the programmer in me loves nodes, I even used MaxMSP frequently… and Origami. But the simplicity of After Effects is really nice and it has like every plugin in existence.

Don’t get me wrong, I use DaVinci with the quick editor and have considered buying other gear to make it work better, but… it’s really kinda a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-color-grading app. There’s a lot still to wish for.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Official statement from Affinity (Serif):

https://affinity.serif.com/de/press/newsroom/canva-statement...

   Canva’s business model is subscription, are there any plans to change how Affinity is sold?
   There are no changes to our current pricing model planned at this time, with all our apps still available as a one-off purchase. Existing Affinity users will be able to continue to use your apps in perpetuity as they were originally purchased – with plenty of free updates to V2 still to look forward to!
Am I the only only reading "no changes ... at this time" with a ", but there are going to be ..."

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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In light of this, I can't help but feel the OSS alternatives to the Adobe graphics suite are pretty abysmal. Inkscape is passable but aspects like filters are obtuse to use and that's largely because it's trying to be a good compliant SVG editor and not necessarily a good vector graphics editor. GIMP's user experience in my opinion has been terrible for decades and every time I have given it a chance it's annoyed me…

> Inkscape is passable but aspects like filters are obtuse to use and that's largely because it's trying to be a good compliant SVG editor and not necessarily a good vector graphics editor.

It is actually possible to build an intuitive UI for filters while staying compliant with SVG. You just have to abstract away the low level SVG primitives ("feColorMatrix", "feComponentTransfer", etc.) with user-friendly presets such as "Sepia" or "Drop shadow". I actually created a mockup for such UI in Inkscape long time ago [1] and I eventually implemented it in Boxy SVG [2].

Advanced filter editing could be improved by switching from tree-based to node-based UI, in similar fashion to e.g. Jasc WebDraw [3].

[1] https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/SpecSimpleFiltersUi

[2] https://boxy-svg.com/blog/19

[3] https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/webdraw02.png

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Official statement from Affinity (Serif): https://affinity.serif.com/de/press/newsroom/canva-statement... Canva’s business model is subscription, are there any plans to change how Affinity is sold? There are no changes to our current pricing model planned at this time, with all our apps still available as a one-off purchase. Existing Affinity users will be able to continue to use your apps in perpetuity as they were…

You’re definitely not the only one. It’s going to be a matter of time before subscriptions come.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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This is bad news. The Affinity offers a genuine and very high class alternative to the Adobe suite. Its HDRI workflow is league ahead of anything else. As for Canva, all I can say is that I downgrade any student who makes their research slides using this dumb service. The slides are template-driven horror with each exported pdf slide being rasterized pngs: stupidly large files with text that is impossible to select a…

You don’t sound like a good educator. Perhaps withhold your personal and subjective gripes for the sake of your students

He does explain the rationale though. They’re both things I didn’t know about canva generated files. Makes sense for them to do that I guess, it means you won’t be able to reuse any of their stuff outside of their platform.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Due to subscriptions.

And bloatware. Affinity runs smoother on Mac.

This is true. I bought it because photoshop kept crashing on Mac. And I got tired of watching filters take effect in Lightroom.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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(Customer from the very beginning for Designer&Photo, made a book with Publisher) They will move to subscriptions (there will be many more of these moves, see VMWare), which will kill their differenitation towards Adobe and kill the product. If subscription, I can use Illustrator (which has 10x more tutorials than Designer). Most companies screw up M&A.

If the pricing model is the only thing that differentiates Affinity then that wouldn’t have been a very good sign for their future

As a happy Affinity customer and relatively casual user I prefer them because of their reasonable fixed prices and because and I don't have to run the abomination that is the Adobe Cloud client on my machine.

If they switch to a subscription model I will definitely be looking for alternatives.

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