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Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by helpmefindpurp »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #36
simonbarker87 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's some pushback Quite understandable as well. The thing is big enough as it is. Bought at a discount or not, bulldozing that many homes in an overpopulated city that already struggles for space due to its geography is a little ludicrous.

Modern Architecture is ludicrous. We build and build depressing neighborhoods in cities for us to all flee to historical centres to experience beauty for a minute. I mean if you are in the US you are lost anyway, but the Europe has some beautiful cities (Amsterdam, Venice, Palma, Rome, Vienna the list continues), but none of them are modern. The citizens should be helped to find replacement, but please let's put some…

> I mean if you are in the US you are lost anyway, but the Europe has some beautiful cities, but none of them are modern.

stop treating us like some kind of zoo animals. The reason why the old tenaments were demolished is because their living conditions brought fire, disease, and discomfort with them.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by rsynnott »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #36
simonbarker87 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's some pushback Quite understandable as well. The thing is big enough as it is. Bought at a discount or not, bulldozing that many homes in an overpopulated city that already struggles for space due to its geography is a little ludicrous.

Modern Architecture is ludicrous. We build and build depressing neighborhoods in cities for us to all flee to historical centres to experience beauty for a minute. I mean if you are in the US you are lost anyway, but the Europe has some beautiful cities (Amsterdam, Venice, Palma, Rome, Vienna the list continues), but none of them are modern. The citizens should be helped to find replacement, but please let's put some…

> and give prominence to Gaudi's architecture

I mean... It's right there, you can't miss it. It's not like it's currently particularly well-hidden.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by unglaublich »

martibravo wrote: post #37
simonbarker87 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's some pushback Quite understandable as well. The thing is big enough as it is. Bought at a discount or not, bulldozing that many homes in an overpopulated city that already struggles for space due to its geography is a little ludicrous.

As someone from Barcelona, I really wanna see it finished completely. Those apartments had an expiration date the moment they were built in the 60s. Everyone who bought them at a discount knew that they were going to be torn down when the temple itself was finished. I feel it's like those people that buy a house near an airport, they pay pennies for it, and then start lobbying the government for a change in air traff…

Exactly. Nimbyism at its finest: all gains are mine; all losses should be covered.

It's bizarre that at the same time, real estate investors think all value increases are rightfully theirs, but they should be protected from any decrease in value.

You can hardly call it 'investing' if you're protected from the downsides.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by dncornholio »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #32
darkest_ruby wrote: post #25

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Oh I see you’re here for the downvotes!

Terrible, people should be able to express their point of view without being downvoted IMO. There is a lot of weight in OP's post and should not be dismissed because people don't agree.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by RajT88 »

simonbarker87 wrote: post #26

I feel like the only person in the world who was thoroughly underwhelmed by it and really don’t see how its future space requirements for a staircase can be justified. This isn’t me trying to be edgy, I like cathedrals, this one (and his general style) just left me cold. Duomo in Milan was far better imo.

I wasn't underwhelmed per se (the thing is mind-bogglingly huge).

I just was on one of those "middle aged friend couples go to Europe" trips. Most of my world travel has been solo, and I like to briskly walk around for miles and miles and just see how the city is laid out. "Slowly shambling around cathedrals" was much of the trip, so I was frequently irritated on that trip, particularly so at Sagrada Familia as it must have been the 12th cathedral we shambled around in 3 days.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by EdiX »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #36
simonbarker87 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's some pushback Quite understandable as well. The thing is big enough as it is. Bought at a discount or not, bulldozing that many homes in an overpopulated city that already struggles for space due to its geography is a little ludicrous.

Modern Architecture is ludicrous. We build and build depressing neighborhoods in cities for us to all flee to historical centres to experience beauty for a minute. I mean if you are in the US you are lost anyway, but the Europe has some beautiful cities (Amsterdam, Venice, Palma, Rome, Vienna the list continues), but none of them are modern. The citizens should be helped to find replacement, but please let's put some…

Ironically the Sagrada Familia is an example of modern architecture.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by wouldbecouldbe »

Looking at the surrounding building of the Sagrada, just makes me wonder again, what the hell happened to modern architecture.

Modern architecture has destroyed our cities. It's hard to find a building build after WO2 that's actually pretty, let alone an entire neighborhood. Nothing compared the historic cities of Europe.

In a time when it's cheaper then ever to build, they've not been able to build anything even close to pretty. The best they do is a bad copy of old style.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by diggan »

lqet wrote: post #35
martibravo wrote: post #9

It won't. Gaudí's plan was to build a big staircase in front of it creating a new public square next to the temple, replacing some apartment buildings currently being used. Gaudí's project won't be finished until then. There's some pushback from the neighbors because finishing it all means bulldozing hundreds of apartments, although those apartments were bought at a discounted price decades ago because everyone knew…

> Gaudí's plan It is incredibly rare for a large cathedral to be completed just like the original architect envisioned it, without any compromises made along the way*. It may even be said that a large cathedral is never finished - all the large cathedrals have a standing team of builders, usually with a tradition going back to the middle ages, and require constant maintenance work. "Finished" is thus a difficult term…

> My understanding is that they already deviated from the original plans decades ago.

Yes, a lot of models and plans Gaudi created for Sagrada Familia were incomplete when he died. It didn't help either that his studio(s) were ransacked during the civil war, so even if he had a 100% vision, the war would ensure those plans didn't survive.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Post by dncornholio »

simonbarker87 wrote: post #26

I feel like the only person in the world who was thoroughly underwhelmed by it and really don’t see how its future space requirements for a staircase can be justified. This isn’t me trying to be edgy, I like cathedrals, this one (and his general style) just left me cold. Duomo in Milan was far better imo.

I had the same type of feeling. Sagrada felt more like a zoo / tourist attraction then an actual religious building. The design is impressive but it didn't bring the uumpf that Duomo did.
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