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Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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amarant wrote: post #6
anon291 wrote: post #2

The article mistakenly refers to Sagrada Familia as the cathedral of Barcelona. It's not. It's a minor basilica, not a cathedral.

I'm curious what "minor" means exactly in this context? I've seen the Sagrada familia, and it ain't small!

A cathedral is the official seat of the local the bishop and the Sagrada Familia isn't one.

A basilica on the other hand is an honorific title granted to some churches by the pope for historical/religious reasons.

An interesting note: Saint Peter in Rome, the most famous church in the christian world is not a cathedral itself as it is not where the pope has its seat, that's actually another basilica in Rome, Saint John Lateran, which makes it the most important church in the catholic hierarchy with the title of "Omnium Urbis et Orbis Ecclesiarum Mater et Caput", or "Mother and leader of all the churches in the world".

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

chrisdroukas wrote: post #10

There are a number of material and technology advances [1] that accelerated the pace of the Sagrada Familia's construction — the techniques used to construct the basilica have evolved significantly since construction began. https://www.archdaily.com/964178/from-handcrafted-stone-to-3...

I should most definitely hope so considering construction started in 1882.

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Post by eadmund »

anon291 wrote: post #2

The article mistakenly refers to Sagrada Familia as the cathedral of Barcelona. It's not. It's a minor basilica, not a cathedral.

> The article mistakenly refers to Sagrada Familia as the cathedral of Barcelona. It's not. It's a minor basilica, not a cathedral.

There may not be enough institutional knowledge at CNN about Catholicism that the editors would know that there is a difference between a basilica and a cathedral.

This is the sort of thing that the folks at GetReligion.com were trying to address: not advocating any particular religion, but helping newsrooms ‘get’ religion, in the senses of understanding it and of not getting things wrong. The example at https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2023/12/29/why-we-di... is a really good one: the New York Times in 2014 published ‘the vast Church of the Holy Sepulcher marking the site where many Christians believe that Jesus is buried.’ There was no-one on the editorial team that handled that article who knew enough about Christianity to know that Christians don’t believe Jesus is buried anywhere.

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Post by overview »

diggan wrote: post #7
jihadjihad wrote: post #5

It's amazing if you haven't gone, especially when sunlight streams in through the windows. I saw a quote while I was there that was something along the lines of, "Gaudí is not an artist with whom posthumous collaboration is possible." A couple minutes walking around the church is all that's needed to confirm that notion.

> I saw a quote while I was there that was something along the lines of, "Gaudí is not an artist with whom posthumous collaboration is possible." A couple minutes walking around the church is all that's needed to confirm that notion. Maybe I misunderstand "posthumous collaboration", but the church is literally being built after Gaudi's demise by a bunch of other people, isn't that posthumous collaboration?

It’s referring to the collaboration on the design itself.

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Post by diggan »

amarant wrote: post #6
anon291 wrote: post #2

The article mistakenly refers to Sagrada Familia as the cathedral of Barcelona. It's not. It's a minor basilica, not a cathedral.

I'm curious what "minor" means exactly in this context? I've seen the Sagrada familia, and it ain't small!

Religions like to "rank" things so it's clear who's on top and who's on the bottom. In terms of churches, same thing applies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilicas_in_the_Catholic_Chur...

In short, the "major" is reserved for four top churches in Rome. "Minor" is used to signal that the church is of significant importance, but not as important as the major ones. It's not related to the size at all :)

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Post by mgkimsal »

diggan wrote: post #7
jihadjihad wrote: post #5

It's amazing if you haven't gone, especially when sunlight streams in through the windows. I saw a quote while I was there that was something along the lines of, "Gaudí is not an artist with whom posthumous collaboration is possible." A couple minutes walking around the church is all that's needed to confirm that notion.

> I saw a quote while I was there that was something along the lines of, "Gaudí is not an artist with whom posthumous collaboration is possible." A couple minutes walking around the church is all that's needed to confirm that notion. Maybe I misunderstand "posthumous collaboration", but the church is literally being built after Gaudi's demise by a bunch of other people, isn't that posthumous collaboration?

Maybe not on the design and original plans? IIRC they're trying to do everything according to original designs, which would not be 'collaboration', just... implementation. It's been over 30 years since I was there though - some friends who went more recently said a lot more has been done since then. Might be fun to go back and look for the differences, but I do not remember much detail, just a sense of 'big'.

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Post by cmpalmer52 »

jihadjihad wrote: post #5

It's amazing if you haven't gone, especially when sunlight streams in through the windows. I saw a quote while I was there that was something along the lines of, "Gaudí is not an artist with whom posthumous collaboration is possible." A couple minutes walking around the church is all that's needed to confirm that notion.

I’m not particularly religious and not Catholic, but the Sagrada Familia brought me to tears. The interior is one of the most beautiful man-made spaces I’ve ever seen.

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Post by hylaride »

jihadjihad wrote: post #5

It's amazing if you haven't gone, especially when sunlight streams in through the windows. I saw a quote while I was there that was something along the lines of, "Gaudí is not an artist with whom posthumous collaboration is possible." A couple minutes walking around the church is all that's needed to confirm that notion.

I saw it 20 years ago and it was impressive, but it's hard to take in fully with the crowds.
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