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'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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> It almost sounds like she’s just passively absorbing banal shit rather than there being any kind of consciousness. So? They don't want to use her as a trove of historically important information, but to study her as a person which "super memory". For that, it doesn't matter if it's about human anatomy, quantum physics, or what was said in every episode of Melrose Place. The mechanism by which those are absorbed and…

Sorry, I don’t think I’m making myself very clear… I think what I’m after here is almost like survivorship bias. Yes, she’s remembering all these things, but I’m wondering about all the things she isn’t either remembering or in control of remembering that would have otherwise been within here sphere to have remembered. From the article it wasn’t clear to me what control she actually has over any of this. Does that ma…

>Yes, she’s remembering all these things, but I’m wondering about all the things she isn’t either remembering or in control of remembering that would have otherwise been within here sphere to have remembered.

Yes, now it kind of makes sense. But why assume her ability is counterbalanced by having trouble remembering other stuff? Nothing of the short is hinted at in the article, and if she had any such issue, I'd expect her or her parents to have noticed. And even if that was the case, why would that make it any less interesting to study?

"Passively absorving banal shit" and remembering it would be any less important to study than some conscious ability to chose what important thing to remember. The latter might be more apparently useful to the person and in general, but a super memory mechanism is interesting enough to study on its own, even it just concerns past lotto numbers.

It's also not the case that "all the examples given are out of the tabloid headlines" - the article gives all kinds of other examples (from a "memory game" as a kid, to answering questions about what she wore, ate, etc at random dates on past years).

In any case, this Nash person has a beautiful mind!

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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The reverse of this is "severely deficient autobiographical memory", which has been in the news recently as well (and I think discussed on HN too). I think it's interesting that I consider myself to have a good memory but it is by far best at verbal associations (e.g. facts about a specific topic, object, word, or concept). The autobiographical part feels quite weak for me: I often find it hard to remember experience…

I've often felt the same, although I've been unable to describe it as well as you have. My memories feel fuzzy and non-discrete, like there are no threads to pick at. This is one of the reasons, I often struggle at such improptu questions as well, and find it hard to communicate what I feel.

It is a relief to hear that I'm not alone in experiencing this.

Lately, I've been realising that it might be because I'm neurodivergent (as to the exact pathology, I can only guess it's in the spectrum of ADHD). It'd probably explain a lot of things in my life.

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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I'm curious how this relates to neurodivergent/ADHD/autistic learning where someone has weak rote-memorization skills and mainly remembers things as a fractal of associations. For me, I can't remember that I have an appointment tomorrow, but if you ask me how computers work, I'll start with explaining electron orbitals and band gaps, doping, masking, VLSI, assembly language, C, functional programming and where AI is…

I'm diagnosed as ASD, and a psych has said I'm almost certainly ADHD but untestable. I have an unusually acute visual memory - I can accurately describe the room I was in while Churchill's funeral was on TV, when I was less than 3 years old. Most university exams were effectively open book because I could recall the pages I'd read as images. I'm not convinced all the stereotypes about ASD/ADHD superpowers are true my…

I wonder if this has to do with IQ. likely yours is very high . People with high IQs can have very accurate memories

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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This girl uses her memory superpower to remember irrelevant celebrity facts and Netflix release dates..? Not sure if this is a reflection of the wider culture but this is pretty depressing.

Is it any more pointless than the minutia of baseball stats?

Exactly.

Pick a realm of minutia, it comes down to a value judgement based on the observer.

When I was 12, I thought fighter aircraft and ordinance stats were interesting.

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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I'm curious how this relates to neurodivergent/ADHD/autistic learning where someone has weak rote-memorization skills and mainly remembers things as a fractal of associations. For me, I can't remember that I have an appointment tomorrow, but if you ask me how computers work, I'll start with explaining electron orbitals and band gaps, doping, masking, VLSI, assembly language, C, functional programming and where AI is…

Your interests seem to lie closer to the systems and hardware side. Can you elaborate on why your career is in CRUD apps? What about working for SpaceX?

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm diagnosed as ASD, and a psych has said I'm almost certainly ADHD but untestable. I have an unusually acute visual memory - I can accurately describe the room I was in while Churchill's funeral was on TV, when I was less than 3 years old. Most university exams were effectively open book because I could recall the pages I'd read as images. I'm not convinced all the stereotypes about ASD/ADHD superpowers are true my…

I wonder if this has to do with IQ. likely yours is very high . People with high IQs can have very accurate memories

IQ is a measure, not a cause. Also, memory is used in IQ tests, so having a great memory will improve the tests results.

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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I found it interesting that she didn't remember everything. Notably in one example, she couldn't recall what she had for lunch, but did for dinner. I find it almost more weird that she can recall so many meaningless (in the grand scheme) details yet there is still a limit. Perhaps too meaningless?

I think where their attention is and therefore what gets encoded is similar to the rest of us. In one instance they were unable to recall what the interviewers were wearing after spending two hours with them. They remember their experiences visually, essentially. So if information was not actually recorded, it can't be searched for. On a different note, I'm curious how long people with photographic memory store the i…

Is there any solid evidence that photographic memory exists?

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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It raises a few interesting questions, Im sure there is already lot of research in the area. - What about storage? The brain seems to be limitless. - Seems like there are more mutations that improve memory, but overal our memory is terrible? Doesn't have seem to be a favourable quality, maybe that changes in an information society - So why do we forget in the first place? Bio clean up? Trauma processing? Focus?

Garbage collection...
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