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'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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This is fascinating, but I’m left confused at the banality. Maybe it’s just the way the article was written, but truly, who cares that she can remember what was playing on Netflix three years ago? It does cause me to wonder if brains are attuned to certain things - like in this woman’s case, is she particularly interested in celebrities and that’s why all the examples given are out of the tabloid headlines? The artic…

>This is fascinating, but I’m left confused at the banality. Maybe it’s just the way the article was written, but truly, who cares that she can remember what was playing on Netflix three years ago?

Anybody who can understand the implications this has for understanding how memory works, creating memory enhancing drugs or gene alterations, and enhancing human cognition? I mean, DUH!

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The reverse of this is "severely deficient autobiographical memory", which has been in the news recently as well (and I think discussed on HN too).

I think it's interesting that I consider myself to have a good memory but it is by far best at verbal associations (e.g. facts about a specific topic, object, word, or concept). The autobiographical part feels quite weak for me: I often find it hard to remember experiences in my life "by theme" (e.g. "think of a time when you felt X", "think of a time when you did Y very well or poorly"), and I very often don't remember what year a particular thing happened, or who was present with me on a particular occasion, or what I have or haven't done before with a particular friend or family member. I certainly have many vivid memories from my life, but they don't seem to be indexed that well by date, topic, or person.

I've been lucky enough to travel frequently, but I feel like I would be unable to answer questions like "how many times have you been to country X?" or "in what year did you first/last visit country Y?". (But I would probably be able to draw a decent map of specific places I've been, on various scales, and remember specific restaurants, train stations, landmarks, foreign language vocabulary, impressions of history and culture of various countries, etc. -- just not necessarily things like "when did you go there?". For example, my nephew recently asked me my impressions of Singapore, and I wrote him a six-page letter in reply with tons of particulars about all sorts of aspects of life/culture/politics/geography of Singapore, but I was unable to remember what years my trips there took place.)

Anyway, all this reminds me that "having a good memory" is definitely not just one thing!

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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post #33

The reverse of this is "severely deficient autobiographical memory", which has been in the news recently as well (and I think discussed on HN too). I think it's interesting that I consider myself to have a good memory but it is by far best at verbal associations (e.g. facts about a specific topic, object, word, or concept). The autobiographical part feels quite weak for me: I often find it hard to remember experience…

My experience is similar. I feel like I experience past events more as modifications to my world view rather than a log of moments. I like it, to be honest. I don't need to know the exact details. The only time it gets me in trouble is people sometimes equate remembering an event as somehow "caring" about that event. I forget details fast. Sometimes people interpret that as not being interested in the people I met or the significance of the event. I'm always glad when folks of less common memory models share their experiences, I think it helps people understand that there's so many ways to experience life and consciousness.

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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I'm curious how this relates to neurodivergent/ADHD/autistic learning where someone has weak rote-memorization skills and mainly remembers things as a fractal of associations. For me, I can't remember that I have an appointment tomorrow, but if you ask me how computers work, I'll start with explaining electron orbitals and band gaps, doping, masking, VLSI, assembly language, C, functional programming and where AI is…

But you're living in US. In US you got paid crazy salaries for programming. Why do you work at failed startups? Just get some job with crazy salary, work there for 5 years and then retire.

As GP refers to >> neurodivergent/ADHD/autistic

>> paid crazy salaries for programming

may be it's difficult to go through the typical interview loops for such jobs as they are not designed to be inclusive for ND etc despite all the diversity and inclusion BS (more often than not) at such workplaces.

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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I'm curious how this relates to neurodivergent/ADHD/autistic learning where someone has weak rote-memorization skills and mainly remembers things as a fractal of associations. For me, I can't remember that I have an appointment tomorrow, but if you ask me how computers work, I'll start with explaining electron orbitals and band gaps, doping, masking, VLSI, assembly language, C, functional programming and where AI is…

This sounds familiar, including an unstable or uncertain view of oneself caused by – depending on the situation – not knowing if one's pretty smart and inventive, or a total idiot not capable of living life. Finding the right environment and well, just age help a lot.

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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This is fascinating, but I’m left confused at the banality. Maybe it’s just the way the article was written, but truly, who cares that she can remember what was playing on Netflix three years ago? It does cause me to wonder if brains are attuned to certain things - like in this woman’s case, is she particularly interested in celebrities and that’s why all the examples given are out of the tabloid headlines? The artic…

The article mentions that given she is 18 years old and still in school, she mostly is aware of pop culture events and entertainment, but is less aware of current events or the broader world.

This is pretty normal. Most kids aren't keeping up on politics or business news, especially if they're hyper focused on school (as she seems to be).

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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Sounds similar to folks who can memorize many digits of pi in the sense that they can visualize a landscape of numbers and they just have to play that movie in their head, similar to how ordinary people can visualize commuting from home to work when closing their eyes

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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post #31

This is fascinating, but I’m left confused at the banality. Maybe it’s just the way the article was written, but truly, who cares that she can remember what was playing on Netflix three years ago? It does cause me to wonder if brains are attuned to certain things - like in this woman’s case, is she particularly interested in celebrities and that’s why all the examples given are out of the tabloid headlines? The artic…

> This is fascinating, but I’m left confused at the banality. Maybe it’s just the way the article was written, but truly, who cares that she can remember what was playing on Netflix three years ago? Anybody who can understand the implications this has for understanding how memory works, creating memory enhancing drugs or gene alterations, and enhancing human cognition? I mean, DUH!

I mean - is that really the case? It almost sounds like she’s just passively absorbing banal shit rather than there being any kind of consciousness. Kinda like a camera with an endless hard drive. Interesting, but what do you do with it?

Re: 'Super memory': Why Emily Nash is sharing her brain with science

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This is fascinating, but I’m left confused at the banality. Maybe it’s just the way the article was written, but truly, who cares that she can remember what was playing on Netflix three years ago? It does cause me to wonder if brains are attuned to certain things - like in this woman’s case, is she particularly interested in celebrities and that’s why all the examples given are out of the tabloid headlines? The artic…

> truly, who cares that she can remember what was playing on Netflix three years ago? That's kind of the point, though -- she retains trivial information that 99.9999% of brains will discard.

Sure, and that’s kinda interesting in a savant way, but what was less clear to me from the article is whether she’s actually strong at memories where there is consciousness.
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