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Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

aszantu wrote: post #220
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #108

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Nitrites in vegetables, unintuitively, aren’t bad for you whereas the ones in salami are, indirectly. The problem isn’t nitrates and nitrites themselves though, but rather what’s present when they’re digested. Something has to convert nitrates to nitrites, or you need to consume nitrites, then something has to activate the nitrites into something harmful. With meat, the presence of haem for example allows for the for…

could you just use sodium nitrate to salt your food? Like once a week or so? edit: need=use

No, they're quite different from each other. NaCl (Sodium Chloride) functions as a flavour enhancer whereas NaNO3 (Sodium Nitrate) functions to preserve foods (among other non-culinary uses). The concentrations of NaNO3 used for food preservation are far lower (and strictly regulated in much of the world) than we normally use for flavouring foods when using NaCl.

The flavour profiles are different, and the limits for consumption are much different as well. Too much of both is dangerous, but too much NaNO3 is arguably easier to reach and more harmful in the short and long term. NaNO3 can lead to immediate issues with hemoglobin production for example. In the longer term, high volumes are carcinogenic.

Your primary concern with NaCl is managing safe blood pressure in the longer term, and in the shorter term, it's relatively easy to avoid toxicity or other more minor complications like dehydration.

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Post by aszantu »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #221
aszantu wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

could you just use sodium nitrate to salt your food? Like once a week or so? edit: need=use

No, they're quite different from each other. NaCl (Sodium Chloride) functions as a flavour enhancer whereas NaNO3 (Sodium Nitrate) functions to preserve foods (among other non-culinary uses). The concentrations of NaNO3 used for food preservation are far lower (and strictly regulated in much of the world) than we normally use for flavouring foods when using NaCl. The flavour profiles are different, and the limits for…

Thanks! I think im not getting enough nitrate/nitrite. Im pretty allergic to plants so i wondered about this

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Post by remotefonts »

MrDresden wrote: post #49
bugbuddy wrote: post #38

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Have you tried fermented fish? It was very good when I tried it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prahok I would imagine you are also getting omega-3 from the fish.

Come, eat shark. Shark good. Shark make brain big. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A1karl

I dunno if brain gets big, but leg muscle will get stronger when you run away from ghe smell.

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

aszantu wrote: post #222
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they're quite different from each other. NaCl (Sodium Chloride) functions as a flavour enhancer whereas NaNO3 (Sodium Nitrate) functions to preserve foods (among other non-culinary uses). The concentrations of NaNO3 used for food preservation are far lower (and strictly regulated in much of the world) than we normally use for flavouring foods when using NaCl. The flavour profiles are different, and the limits for…

Thanks! I think im not getting enough nitrate/nitrite. Im pretty allergic to plants so i wondered about this

Ah, that’s really interesting. It might be worth talking to a doctor about how to dose that safely. It you consume it without activating foods, I suspect it could be safe. Perhaps that’s a good way to get some into your diet? Similar to a supplement taken on its own, just always without food (meat in particular).

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Post by Tor3 »

Anotheroneagain wrote: post #173
Tor3 wrote: post #168

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The top comment on this thread ( https://www.quora.com/Could-a-human-being-survive-on-the-die... ) matches what I've learned about this elsewhere. Just that "chewing for six hours a day" part is a problem.. As for gorillas - that's mostly leaves, shoots and stems. All very hard to digest, a human wouldn't get much nutrients out of that.

Sycamore figs are 100% edible, I think it's the predominant species grown in more southern areas.

That's fine, but you can't survive only on Sycamore figs - and that's the problem.

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Post by aszantu »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #224
aszantu wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! I think im not getting enough nitrate/nitrite. Im pretty allergic to plants so i wondered about this

Ah, that’s really interesting. It might be worth talking to a doctor about how to dose that safely. It you consume it without activating foods, I suspect it could be safe. Perhaps that’s a good way to get some into your diet? Similar to a supplement taken on its own, just always without food (meat in particular).

my doctor is no help, sadly. Just sitting there, no suggestions or anything - I wonder if it's me and I'm too pushy with my own ideas
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