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Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by diffeomorphism »

Ecstatify wrote: post #98
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

After getting a Mac I’ll never purchase a Windows device again. + Terrible battery + Terrible build quality + Terrible support + Noise of fan having a stroke

Yeah, no. Macs are nice $2000 machines but are nothing special compared to other current $2000 machines.

Windows being somewhat bad, yes, definitely. However, the hardware auch as much higher res, OLED, touch, high refresh rate, pen etc. can be very good.

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Post by farawayea »

GiorgioG wrote: post #97
giancarlostoro wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, although, having owned a Surface Book 2, and being a .NET developer, the only Windows sytems I'll have in my home will probably be Microsofts own, unless someone makes laptops that are as nice, for half the cost. Things just work on my SB2. The only reason I'll buy a new one is if it either dies, or I see a really good deal. I've had it since 2017 iirc and its been pretty great thus far. My next laptop will lik…

Try https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/ I recently used it on a 2014 5k iMac to install Sonoma (14.3) and it's been flawless in my experience - everything is buttery smooth as you'd expect. I also installed on a 2015 Macbook (12"...horrible Intel mobile processor.) It works, but the CPU is just too underpowered to do basic stuff like web browsing and messaging...if you're impatient like me anyway ;)

OCLP gives up on security when it modifies the OS to use drivers from an older OS. Machines which use OCLP don't get firmware updates to patch severe security vulnerabilities.

It's fine if you just need to make use of some hardware for a bit longer with macOS. Linux may be better in terms of security. It might not be a good fit for many.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by farawayea »

codeulike wrote: post #96
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

Surface is pretty well regarded as I understand it. Microsoft set out to make 'the sortof macbook equivlaent for windows' and largely succeeded. Although obviously macbook remains the champion overall I guess. I'm sorry you had a battery problem. For some of the best Windows hardware on the market, look no further than Microsoft’s Surface brand - WIRED Also: I dont ever see ads in Windows, but I guess somone must be…

Do you sign in with a Microsoft account? If you do, that's probably the reason why you don't see ads in Windows 11. The system settings UI on Windows 11 always shows an ad which says that an account should be used to use office and other apps.

Microsoft has updated apps even on Windows 10 to recommend other apps. The Photos app was recommending a video editor app recently. Windows 11 shows ads, suggestions and installs a lot of garbage apps to upsell people into office 365, Onedrive and other things.

I recently had to reinstall my office that I bought. It signed me into an account without permission and uploaded documents there. I had to sign out of that account to prevent it from uploading documents automatically. Most of the documents I edit contain my PII. I can sue them.

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Post by skeeter2020 »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

The microsoft hardware and OEM devices that MS sold directly were historically THE ones to buy because they were optimized to show off Windows, so no crapware, good drivers, limited BS. I don't know when that changed, but it has.

>> are packed with features that business customers have been requesting

This is a total lie, unless they're referencing THEIR customers trying to sell you all this shit. The developer story from Microsoft is as good as it's ever been, but the consumer side just sucks. As a historically Windows developer who now does most of their work in .net core or totally outside the MS ecosystem, but still plays the odd triple-A game I don't know what to do for my next computer.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by diffeomorphism »

factsaresacred wrote: post #64

Microsoft continue to ship their Surface laptops with over-sized power bricks, which is enough to disqualify them. Similar spec Samsung laptops (Galaxy Books) come with a regular USB-C cable and a fast charging power adapter that looks like any other plug. Anybody know why Samsung can do this and Microsoft can't? Only having to lug around a single cable and charger for all devices is a dealbreaker.

For the same reason as apple. They want you to use "surface connect" or "magsafe" instead.

Of course, you can just throw that away and charge by the usb c port instead, so I am a bit confused how that disqualifies anything.

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Post by sdflhasjd »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #94
hulitu wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I paid 30 € for a 512GB SSD.

Are SSD’s fungible? I thought there were varying qualities.

They aren't fungible, but even for a high-end 512GB SSD, $200 is rip-off pricing. In fact, a top-end SSD range won't even offer 512 sizes because aside from not really being worth it, transfer-rate performance is lower with smaller chips.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by pathartl »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

Honestly, I find this to be such a weird argument. Apple does the same crap with iCloud and people put their hardware on a pedestal when it has the same inherent flaws, often for a much higher price. And maybe you share this opinion, I just want to point out that this hardware from MS is relatively benign in the grand scheme of the PC world.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by charlie0 »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

I'm glad I moved over to Mac. I know it's not perfect, but it's much better than Windows. They seem determined to lose customers.

I really like the concept of the Surface Book and got one several years ago. The keyboard no longer works when detaching the screen, so it's practically useless. Even a full reinstall didn't fix that issue.

Their new hardware is moot because ARM is just on a different level. Yeah, they can stick an H class Intel processor, but that will seriously heat up the laptop and eat the battery.

The only reason I still use a windows machine is because of gaming. I'm sure lots of users are on Windows because they have no choice.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by wiseowise »

pathartl wrote: post #128
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

Honestly, I find this to be such a weird argument. Apple does the same crap with iCloud and people put their hardware on a pedestal when it has the same inherent flaws, often for a much higher price. And maybe you share this opinion, I just want to point out that this hardware from MS is relatively benign in the grand scheme of the PC world.

I never seen any iCloud “ad” outside of iCloud settings item.

On windows I literally get annoying notification to use OneDrive.

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