So I'm guessing Apple didn't agree to collude with the government as Google, Facebook, et al has. It's not a monopoly. No one has to buy Apple. Globally, Android phones have a larger share of the market. In the US, Apple is around 55%. As for it's business practices? About like the rest of the tech industry, or industry generally.
U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone monopoly
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#942> In 2010, a top Apple executive emailed Apple’s then-CEO about an ad for the new Kindle e-reader. The ad began with a woman who was using her iPhone to buy and read books on the Kindle app. She then switches to an Android smartphone and continues to read her books using the same Kindle app. The executive wrote to Jobs: one “message that can’t be missed is that it is easy to switch from iPhone to Android. Not fun to…
This behavior is so overt that I am constantly baffled that otherwise rational people continue to make up excuses for Apple. See also this article where they overtly state that the green bubble thing is deliberately intended to cause lock-in: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/9/22375128/apple-imessage-an... I have been called a "violent criminal" on this very site because I criticized Apple's decision to remotely brick…
Apple Fanboyism Is A Religion: https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-is-a-religion-neurosci...
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#943For folks who don't have time to read a 90 page document, the case rests on specific claims, not just the general claim that iPhone is a monopoly because it's so big. Here are those claims: 1. "Super Apps" Apple has restrictions on what they allow on the App Store as far as "Super Apps", which are apps that might offer a wide variety of different services (specifically, an app which has several "mini programs" within…
I like the app store, I like the restrictions, I don't want apple to change anything about it. I sort of think apple shouldn't try to comply with these sorts of potential lawsuits by making their app store worse, they should just let people jail break the phone and offer zero support for it. If people want to buy an iphone and shit it up, let them do it.
Yes exactly. If Apple allowed users to download alternative app stores or directly install apps, none of this would be a problem.
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#944I assert it is trivial to not buy Apple products, easy to make alternatives to Apple products and easy to buy feature equivalent devices to Apple products. In lieu of this what is the problem? If the government has a problem why not say any code should be able to be run on any device? Honestly I’m curious - what’s the problem? There are android phones that are superior to iPhones and let you run anything you want. Wh…
> I assert it is trivial to not buy Apple products While it is easy to not buy Apple products, I think the thing that often gets missed is that once someone is significantly invested in Apple's ecosystem, getting out of that ecosystem is highly disruptive and difficult. For example, suppose you are a person who for historical reasons owns a MacBook, and iPad, and an iPhone, and a large chunk of your friends group als…
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#945You have a monopoly on your product! I wonder what the real motive was here, did Apple not comply with something and now they’re getting slapped? I don’t believe for a second that this is purely good faith as I haven’t seen any actual harm being caused.
antitrust regulators haven't been acting in good faith for years. It devolved into a political game a long time ago. Part of it is the complexity of modern businesses - they simply don't understand what they are regulating. At that point the goal posts move.
Seems like a trend across the entire government, the first amendment appears to not be working even though it was intentionally put as step 1 before the 2nd…
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#946The way Apple purposefully aims to ostracize young people who don't own/can't afford an iPhone by defaulting to a proprietary, non-interoperable messaging system has been enough to turn me entirely against the company.
How are they ostracized? I hear people gripe about green versus blue and all I can think is: are we all suddenly grade schoolers who think the color of your clothes makes you cool?
I've been left out of family and friend group chats for not having an iPhone.
I nearly missed a birthday party for my friend that his girlfriend organized because she didn't want to lose iMessage features when sending out the group invite. I only found out the day before because my friend asked if I would be coming to his party the day before.
I only got added to my family group chat after I got a mac and installed AirMessage.
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#947Apple frustrates the hell out of me with their deceptive tactics to create walled gardens while pretending not to. They feign ignorance to keep you stuck and create the illusion of open doors out of their walled garden that are actually broken and they have no interest in fixing. I've been paying for iCloud for my wife's iphone for the last several months because of how difficult Apple makes it for us to export our p…
I sync my photos from iphone using dropbox. very simple and effective, no neeed for icloud / iphotos.
Re: U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone monopoly
#948For folks who don't have time to read a 90 page document, the case rests on specific claims, not just the general claim that iPhone is a monopoly because it's so big. Here are those claims: 1. "Super Apps" Apple has restrictions on what they allow on the App Store as far as "Super Apps", which are apps that might offer a wide variety of different services (specifically, an app which has several "mini programs" within…
It is interesting that in this case "pro-competitive" does not necessarily mean "pro-consumer". I am not sure how stuff like "super apps" are a good thing for consumers (sounds like a nightmare mass surveillance scenario to me). Similar cloud streaming apps where the whole fuss is really about microtransactions in games or less regulation. Message interoperability is not a bad thing, but not sure why we still talk ab…
> And as for digital wallets, I already trust apple for the OS, I would not see why I would put the effort to download an extra app from a third party I would need to also trust to put bank details
Do you think no one else should be able to build a mobile payment service? Should banks be block from making, say, ChasePay?
It's fine to prefer Apple Pay and to choose Apple Pay even if there are other options. The question is, should everyone be locked into Apple Pay vs choosing Apple Pay because it is better than ChasePay?
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#949For folks that have worked with Apple, since the 1980s, it’s sort of surreal, to see this happening.
We remember Apple as this scrappy, scruffy outfit, struggling to stay alive.
We never dreamed that they would ever get to the place, where they would be sued as a monopoly.
I remember the old WWDCs, when you could just walk up to anyone at Apple (including Steve), and just start chatting. If you did talk to Steve, he might not be so nice, responding, but you didn't have bodyguards or bouncers.
Those days, they are long gone.
I have a friend that worked for Apple for a while. He told me that his onboarding training had a special section on dealing with "The Principals."
Basically, if you passed Tim or Craig, or somesuch, in the hallway, you were to act as if they weren't there. Avoid eye contact, don't say hi, no nods, etc.
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#950For folks who don't have time to read a 90 page document, the case rests on specific claims, not just the general claim that iPhone is a monopoly because it's so big. Here are those claims: 1. "Super Apps" Apple has restrictions on what they allow on the App Store as far as "Super Apps", which are apps that might offer a wide variety of different services (specifically, an app which has several "mini programs" within…
>Also, the Apple Watch itself does not offer compatibility with Android. This is the reason I am now on an iPhone after being on Android since ~2009. But this could also apply to Samsung too. There were two watches I was considering - Samsung's and Apple's (for health monitoring reasons, I have a family history of heart problems, and am already nearly 10 years older than my dad was when he died). I would either have…
Was this before the Google Pixel Watch, or did you eliminate it for other reasons? Also, newer Galaxy watches run Androids WearOS instead of Tizen, and from what I understand, work much better with other Android phones.