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Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by runjake »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

It’s interesting that everything you just listed also applies to Apple — not that they’re the only alternative here.

I guess I should feel fortunate that for Apple, at least the ads are limited to its own range of products.

We have a bunch of Surface products deployed at work and those people seem to love them. I can’t think of any high-rate failures affecting them.

Edit: Wow, I guess we have a lot of angry Apple fanatics here. Am I wrong somewhere? Please point it out. FWIW, I use and prefer Apple products.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by HackerLemon »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

iOS has push notifications adverts from Apple as well.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by exitzer0 »

RajT88 wrote: post #103
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

I have had a few surfaces for work. They are actually really nice hardware, but the Surface Book had one design flaw, which would periodically disconnect USB headsets. That was my only real complaint. I would say the comparison to Macbooks is fair.

the special firmware that microsoft uses in these machines breaks network, USB, anything that you attach to it. it just can't get power management right. I've been saddled with one of these for 5+ years and it just never got better.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by goosedragons »

codeulike wrote: post #96
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

Surface is pretty well regarded as I understand it. Microsoft set out to make 'the sortof macbook equivlaent for windows' and largely succeeded. Although obviously macbook remains the champion overall I guess. I'm sorry you had a battery problem. For some of the best Windows hardware on the market, look no further than Microsoft’s Surface brand - WIRED Also: I dont ever see ads in Windows, but I guess somone must be…

Just swipe left to right on Windows 11. The widget page is like 60% ads disguised as news by default. It's so easy to trigger accidentally on Windows tablets. I feel like Windows 11 is the Windows 8 for tablets. They took pretty much every gain and good thing Windows had as tablet OS and made it garbage.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by HackerLemon »

Ecstatify wrote: post #98
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

After getting a Mac I’ll never purchase a Windows device again. + Terrible battery + Terrible build quality + Terrible support + Noise of fan having a stroke

Every single windows device ever has "Terrible build quality"? Weird take

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by dghlsakjg »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #94
hulitu wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I paid 30 € for a 512GB SSD.

Are SSD’s fungible? I thought there were varying qualities.

They are not fungible.

Read/write speed, durability, and power efficiency are all variable.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by criddell »

Ecstatify wrote: post #98
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

After getting a Mac I’ll never purchase a Windows device again. + Terrible battery + Terrible build quality + Terrible support + Noise of fan having a stroke

My ThinkPad has okay support with the on-site option, but you're right on with all the other things.

I don't understand why Lenovo (and Dell and the other major PC makers) can see the $/sq.ft. that an Apple store generates and not open their own stores? I'd feel a lot more comfortable recommending a ThinkPad to a friend if there was a local place they could shop at, get repairs, and take classes.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by iinnPP »

When I purchased a laptop last year I went with MSI:

32GB RAM 1TB SSD 4080 12GB 3 USBC 2 USB3.2

$2100 CAD.

My only complaint was Windows 11 which was immediately rectified. Though not before having a full screen Xbox Live ad that couldn't be closed through any means.

Since removing MS the laptop functions perfectly, runs models locally without any fuss and powers any game I want at 4k60hz or 3k144hz(1440p).

What is the reason for the high pricing of Surface models?

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by MarkSweep »

mythz wrote: post #35

Good build quality but unreliable. Bought a Surface, used it rarely, tried to pass it on to my eldest but it refused to start within 12 months.

The cherry on top of the unreliability is the high price of repairs. Even battery replacement runs around $400 for a Surface Pro, while a MacBook Pro battery replacement costs $250

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/how-much-does-out-...

https://support.apple.com/mac/repair

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by vsnf »

delfinom wrote: post #84
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

>My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. Statistically, all devices suffer from swollen batteries. I've even see iPhones and iPads die from swollen batteries. There's a certain tiny % fallout in manufacturing of battery cells where they may degrade and fail prematurely and swelling is a safety feature.

I had two surfaces die from swollen batteries. The problem was frequent enough that Microsoft Store staff (rip) would exchange it immediately, no questions asked.

This was back during the Surface Book 1 days. I’ve been a happy surface user ever since, and haven’t had any other battery or build quality issues since.

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