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Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by delfinom »

underlogic wrote: post #58
jeffbee wrote: post #45

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The way normal rational people buy computers is as follows. First they decide what they want to do, then they choose applications that do those things. Then they choose an operating system that can host the application. Finally they choose a hardware platform that runs both the operating system and the application. Under this process, few users face a choice between a Mac and a Surface.

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Jesus you drank the koolaid.

Lol, dark patterns. Recently got a M2 mac for CI purposes.

Step 1 was deleting all the preloaded apple-ware apps that they want to people to use for datamining from the dock, they make it as painful clickfest to remove the 20 fucking default docked apps with even removal animations. Not to mention I ran one fucking update from macOS 13 to 14 and it added all the fucking apps back to the dock.

At least on Windows I can run a one line command line statement to remove all the preloaded junk.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by devjab »

hulitu wrote: post #76
underlogic wrote: post #58

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> If an application is windows only I won't use it. Most of us (non SW engineers) do not have this choice.

Many of us in software development work in companies/organisations of sufficient size that IT-operations will enforce a Windows policy because it fits with their entire infrastructure.

I don’t mind too much, these days windows doesn’t really get in the way. With everything being done in an IDE and run/build in containers anyway. I do think it’s a little hilarious that the beast of a Lenovo that was 5x the price of my personal m1 air is basically worse in every way. From the terrible performance, the noisy fan, the horrible trackpad and the 1 hour battery life. (To be fair a lot of the resource drain is due to whatever enterprise stuff IT-operations runs on it). But for the most part it just sits closed in a dock with its fan thing pointed away from me, and I bring an extension cord with me to be able to hook it into power in our poorly planned meeting rooms.

Anyway, corporate is often a windows world even for SW engineers.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by pid-1 »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

Office and Active Directory (and related stuff)

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by delfinom »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

>My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device.

Statistically, all devices suffer from swollen batteries. I've even see iPhones and iPads die from swollen batteries. There's a certain tiny % fallout in manufacturing of battery cells where they may degrade and fail prematurely and swelling is a safety feature.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by delfinom »

AraceliHarker wrote: post #37

The so-called "AI PC" is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. It has no new features, just a Copilot button on the keyboard and the same background editing function for web conferences that has been available for a long time.

Welcome to 2024, everyone is marketing "AI" something something with their products. I've seen power tools with "AI" slapped onto the marketing.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by meragrin_ »

ankurdhama wrote: post #68
e44858 wrote: post #65

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At least the SSD is not soldered down.

Yup and looks like SSD upgrade from 256 to 512 is just $100.

With the Ultra 5 and 32GB of RAM, the upgrade from 256 to 512 is $200.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by oldpersonintx »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by pge »

bitwize wrote: post #26
dboreham wrote: post #14

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They make ARM surfaces.

Yeah... shitty ones. Microsoft just doesn't have the will to make top-performing mobile gear. Or the oxygen in that space has been sucked out by Apple.

Isn’t the issue there a software issue, not a hardware issue, in that a lot of windows apps don’t run well on ARM yet?

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by [deleted] »

makeitdouble wrote: post #49
underlogic wrote: post #38

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They're the only viable option to have a "work" (or call it "pro") tablet at this point. Apple will need to come up with an iPad with software on par with the mac to make the Surface Pro irrelevant. Until then, living with Windows stays a better tradeoff.

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