Launch HN: CamelQA (YC W24) – AI that tests mobile apps • Hacker News Board

Re: Launch HN: CamelQA (YC W24) – AI that tests mobile apps

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Post by hugs » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 5:09 PM UTC

vercantez wrote: post #50

nchase wrote: post #49

Why is the branding/mascot a camel? I'm reminded of Waldo, a mobile testing automation product that was acquired in 2023. Their mascot is another camelid (not sure if alpaca or llama). https://www.waldo.com/

We originally spelled it qaml which stood for quality assurance, machine learning. That wasn't obvious to anyone and everyone would pronounce it as "qwamel" which we hated so we decided on camelQA instead. Thanks for the question. I was waiting for someone to ask it!

I noticed the first letter in camelQA is very explicitly lower-case. I just assumed someone on the team had very strong opinions about camelCase.

Re: Launch HN: CamelQA (YC W24) – AI that tests mobile apps

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Post by bartekpacia » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 5:57 PM UTC

bellareed wrote: post #41

bartekpacia wrote: post #38

Seems similar to App Quality Copilot - https://www.mobile.dev/app-quality-copilot

They're building something based on appium and specifically through Maestro which is an excellent use of appium. But it isn't AI - we're excited to try it out!

Maestro is not based on Appium. It's built from the ground up, you can learn more about its internals here[0].

> it isn't AI

Hmm, why? I understand "AI" is an incredibly broad term, and there are maybe some fundamental differences between how App Quality Copilot and CamelQA work (I tried neither), but from looking at App Quality Copilot's website, it sure looks like "AI".

[0]: https://blog.mobile.dev/maestro-re-building-the-ios-driver-6...

Re: Launch HN: CamelQA (YC W24) – AI that tests mobile apps

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Post by frankdenbow » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 8:48 PM UTC

This is excellent. Definitely useful and well communicated on your site. Curious where you want to expand it, seems like it can be used to track not just your own apps but the apps of others and track information and new UX from competitors as well (I've seen apps like ChangeTower for the web). Is this the direction you're planning to take this? More initial thoughts here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLNG2vtxsA

Re: Launch HN: CamelQA (YC W24) – AI that tests mobile apps

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Post by bellareed » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 9:43 PM UTC

frankdenbow wrote: post #53

This is excellent. Definitely useful and well communicated on your site. Curious where you want to expand it, seems like it can be used to track not just your own apps but the apps of others and track information and new UX from competitors as well (I've seen apps like ChangeTower for the web). Is this the direction you're planning to take this? More initial thoughts here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLNG2vtxsA

Goated guild, wait can we called you GG? GG your youtube videos are dope thank you for commenting. I'll leave that answer to our CEO - we have a lot of different paths we're considering today. Many people are interested in using camel's agent to operate an iphone or android using natural language. But after we master test execution for mobile and test case creation we're moving on to web.

Tracking competitive apps would be an interesting use case for automation. One of our partners at YC asked up to use camel to automatically refresh the waitlist for a tesla cyber truck lol.

Re: Launch HN: CamelQA (YC W24) – AI that tests mobile apps

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Post by TelonAlex » Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 11:14 AM UTC

vercantez wrote: post #13

bluelightning2k wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried putting a pixel grid over the image with labelled guidelines every 100px? Was one thing I never got around to testing with DemoTime but was always curious about. Anyway sorry this is a nice product. Congratulations on the launch. Always good to see substantial tech

Thanks! Yes, we experimented with that! I think because of the way that GPT sees images in patches it has a hard time with absolute positioning but that's just a guess.

I've done something similar and found the same thing. It also could not calibrate when I drew a dot on its last suggested coordinates.

"You said the play button was at 100, 200 and a green circle is drawn there. Is the circle located on the button or do you need to adjust it"

Something along those lines. And it also got the size of the image.

Nope its in the right ballpark but it could not make fine adjustments or anything closer to a button.