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Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#11

Post by kd913 »

Yawn, what is this ad driven nonsense, just give us a spec sheet. Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details.

>From a performance perspective, Surface Laptop 6 is 2x faster than Laptop 52, and Surface Pro 10 is up to 53% faster than Pro 9.

The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff.

Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confused to what shady backroom deal is going on but it seems rather silly for Microsoft/Surface. They can't compete because they don't have the most performant per watt, nor battery efficiency. They used to have AMD ones, and we know they work with them for other tech a la xbox, azure, etc... so what is up with the surface line getting this exclusivity?

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#12

Post by 8K832d7tNmiQ »

denistaran wrote: post #5
anoncow wrote: post #3

Why for Business? Can consumers not buy the Surface laptop anymore?

Based on a blog I read, Microsoft intends to launch these laptops for consumers at a later date, post their initial business-focused release.

The latest Surface Go 4 still sold only for business for 6 months begs to differ.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#13

Post by greenknight »

kd913 wrote: post #11

Yawn, what is this ad driven nonsense, just give us a spec sheet. Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details. >From a performance perspective, Surface Laptop 6 is 2x faster than Laptop 52, and Surface Pro 10 is up to 53% faster than Pro 9. The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff. Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confu…

> Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confused to what shady backroom deal is going on but it seems rather pointless for both parties.

Probably massive kickbacks or massive discounts. Just remember, Intel put out this graphic when Zen was just released -- https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Intel-vs...

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#14

Post by dboreham »

greenknight wrote: post #13
kd913 wrote: post #11

Yawn, what is this ad driven nonsense, just give us a spec sheet. Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details. >From a performance perspective, Surface Laptop 6 is 2x faster than Laptop 52, and Surface Pro 10 is up to 53% faster than Pro 9. The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff. Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confu…

> Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confused to what shady backroom deal is going on but it seems rather pointless for both parties. Probably massive kickbacks or massive discounts. Just remember, Intel put out this graphic when Zen was just released -- https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Intel-vs...

They make ARM surfaces.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#16

Post by Enginerrrd »

snitzr wrote: post #4

What do people even really do on their work computers? Just email? Powerpoint?

CAD with heavy 3D modeling, GIS processing, hydrology/hydraulics calculations, word processing, reading and jumping through 1000+ page PDFs, spreadsheet models, emails, video conferencing, screen sharing, and all of the above at basically the same time by necessity.

So... Depends. In my case: a lot.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#17

Post by boxed »

greenknight wrote: post #13
kd913 wrote: post #11

Yawn, what is this ad driven nonsense, just give us a spec sheet. Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details. >From a performance perspective, Surface Laptop 6 is 2x faster than Laptop 52, and Surface Pro 10 is up to 53% faster than Pro 9. The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff. Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confu…

> Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confused to what shady backroom deal is going on but it seems rather pointless for both parties. Probably massive kickbacks or massive discounts. Just remember, Intel put out this graphic when Zen was just released -- https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Intel-vs...

Also because they know devs aren't on board to make arm versions of the software...

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#18

Post by jjtheblunt »

kd913 wrote: post #11

Yawn, what is this ad driven nonsense, just give us a spec sheet. Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details. >From a performance perspective, Surface Laptop 6 is 2x faster than Laptop 52, and Surface Pro 10 is up to 53% faster than Pro 9. The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff. Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confu…

> Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details.

Apparently “Nancie Gaskill” who wrote it.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#19

Post by kd913 »

greenknight wrote: post #13
kd913 wrote: post #11

Yawn, what is this ad driven nonsense, just give us a spec sheet. Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details. >From a performance perspective, Surface Laptop 6 is 2x faster than Laptop 52, and Surface Pro 10 is up to 53% faster than Pro 9. The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff. Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confu…

> Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confused to what shady backroom deal is going on but it seems rather pointless for both parties. Probably massive kickbacks or massive discounts. Just remember, Intel put out this graphic when Zen was just released -- https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Intel-vs...

They may get kickbacks, but if they want to eat Apple's pie it makes little sense for this kind of move which would massively hamstring growth.

Also don't really see the benefit for Microsoft for the kickbacks (are they desperate for cash?) at the cost of growth and potential DoJ scrutiny.

This sector is already a slim line that is dwarfed by office, windows, azure so what is the point in doing all of this nonsense?

If they want to grow their own silicon, push ARM, if they want to compete, do so. To me it sounds like kickbacks to specific people in the surface group which seems shadier.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

#20

Post by dboreham »

7thaccount wrote: post #8
anoncow wrote: post #3

Why for Business? Can consumers not buy the Surface laptop anymore?

"These new PCs represent a major step forward in customer-focused design and are packed with features that business customers have been requesting – from amazing performance and battery life to more ports, better security and custom, durable anti-reflective displays." Not sure if only sold to businesses or what. It seems like Surface is a brand name synonymous with home consumers and they're trying to target business…

It's some MS channel/Conway thing. They have long had a different web site for "business" and sold models (e.g. the Surface Go with LTE) that were only available to "business" customers.

Actually, Dell had the same thing going on until recently.

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